Recently sitting down with The New York Times‘s T Magazine, JAY-Z discussed the current state of rap music amongst a whole slew of other topics including the meaning behind the song “The Story of O.J.,” teaching his kids the hardships he went through, and what it’s like to have Donald Trump as president. Of course Mrs. Carter, aka Beyoncé, was not off topics and during the interview JAY-Z confirmed the long-circulating rumors that the pair have been working on a collaborative album together.
When asked if the two had a discussion about putting out such an intimate record, JAY replied:
“It didn’t happen that way… We were using our art almost like a therapy session. And we started making music together. And then the music she was making at that time was further along. So her album came out as opposed to the joint album that we were working on. Um, we still have a lot of that music. And this is what it became. There was never a point where it was like, ‘I’m making this album.’ I was right there the entire time.”
Hov also mentioned his relationship with Kanye West:
“I [talked to] Kanye the other day, just to tell him, like, he’s my brother. I love Kanye. I do. It’s a complicated relationship with us. [W]e’re both entertainers. It’s always been like a little underlying competition with your big brother. In the long relationship, you know, hopefully when we’re 89 we look at this six months or whatever time and we laugh at that.”
You can also read the full interview over at The New York Times.