Michael Lockley wants you to know that he’s actually nice at basketball; so nice, in fact, that the sport was his first love. But when his fashion insider mother floated the idea of modeling by him, Lockley was hooked. In the short time since, Lockley’s rise has been meteoric: he’s since walked in fashion weeks around the globe, most notably for Louis Vuitton.

HYPEBEAST Radio caught up with the Golden Child to talk about his beginnings in the notoriously fickle modeling industry, the importance of Instagram, and the various dubs of the fashion world.

Listen to the episode up top and check out the video highlights here.