Starting a New Line/Brand Feedback Thread

Apr 29, 2013 @ 03:12
You're coming off as corny and a little condescending. First off, your explanation for the drug metaphor is a reach to be honest. Realistically most customers aren't going to sit down and try to analyze your metaphor, it's not like you're a big brand so it's not worth their time. Do something different to promote your clothes via a video lookbook because creating fake drugs, sipping 40s and wearing supreme just ends up making your video look like a tumblr production lol. If you want people to understand your symbolism, YOU have to define it for them and actually tell what the lifestyle is. No one is going to look at your shit and say "Gee wilikers, their clothing represents the infinite nature of humans". Don't act like you're some high thinking designer when your ideas/concepts are recycled ideas that you didn't even bother to define for your audience. "Narrow minds form bad opinions. Lions dont lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Elevate your thinking young gods." Fuck outta here with that pretending-to-be-deep-but-not-really nonsense. None of your stuff even remotely provokes the thought of higher thinking. Elevate your product bro.
Well aren't you clever. You have some really good points on consumerism, but the tumblr production your talking about is a critical marketing concept that has been extremely beneficial via $ALE$. Its the same idea that all upcoming hiphop artist happen to be wearing either : 10deep, supreme, the hundreds, blackscale, diamond ect. because subconsciously or consciously it provokes the person to consume that image. Of course its only obvious you need to promote your own image and meaning behind your brand but when your dropping your first collection like us here at VLS this allows us to enter the industry more highly regarded by CUSTOMERS/CONSUMERS and viewed just as highly as the brands we appear next to, hence why you see like 5 supreme caps in one frame and more supreme beanies on the couches lmao. Our brand carries a very conscious ora and encourages self enlightenment and freedom from mental slavery which will be executed more in the coming collections. For this video frankly deadlines were not met, production fell behind, and the video suffered because of that. Stick around though you have some good criticism and our brands only getting better , "creating every master piece better than our last release".
putting supreme in your lookbook doesn't make people regard you as highly as them, it makes you look like you're trying to ride the wave and compensate for poor quality product

stop being so butt hurt, take the criticism people are giving you and move on
Apr 29, 2013 @ 04:00
Well aren't you clever. You have some really good points on consumerism, but the tumblr production your talking about is a critical marketing concept that has been extremely beneficial via $ALE$. Its the same idea that all upcoming hiphop artist happen to be wearing either : 10deep, supreme, the hundreds, blackscale, diamond ect. because subconsciously or consciously it provokes the person to consume that image. Of course its only obvious you need to promote your own image and meaning behind your brand but when your dropping your first collection like us here at VLS this allows us to enter the industry more highly regarded by CUSTOMERS/CONSUMERS and viewed just as highly as the brands we appear next to, hence why you see like 5 supreme caps in one frame and more supreme beanies on the couches lmao. Our brand carries a very conscious ora and encourages self enlightenment and freedom from mental slavery which will be executed more in the coming collections. For this video frankly deadlines were not met, production fell behind, and the video suffered because of that. Stick around though you have some good criticism and our brands only getting better , "creating every master piece better than our last release".
putting supreme in your lookbook doesn't make people regard you as highly as them, it makes you look like you're trying to ride the wave and compensate for poor quality product

stop being so butt hurt, take the criticism people are giving you and move on
I really don't think it makes a difference, where can i look at your shit and the lookbook video anyway

Feeling like Bishop from Juice

Apr 29, 2013 @ 05:31
I really don't think it makes a difference, where can i look at your shit and the lookbook video anyway
http://valuescult.bigcartel.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Hyin7BgIg
Apr 29, 2013 @ 07:14
Apr 29, 2013 @ 07:38
Well aren't you clever. You have some really good points on consumerism, but the tumblr production your talking about is a critical marketing concept that has been extremely beneficial via $ALE$. Its the same idea that all upcoming hiphop artist happen to be wearing either : 10deep, supreme, the hundreds, blackscale, diamond ect. because subconsciously or consciously it provokes the person to consume that image. Of course its only obvious you need to promote your own image and meaning behind your brand but when your dropping your first collection like us here at VLS this allows us to enter the industry more highly regarded by CUSTOMERS/CONSUMERS and viewed just as highly as the brands we appear next to, hence why you see like 5 supreme caps in one frame and more supreme beanies on the couches lmao. Our brand carries a very conscious ora and encourages self enlightenment and freedom from mental slavery which will be executed more in the coming collections. For this video frankly deadlines were not met, production fell behind, and the video suffered because of that. Stick around though you have some good criticism and our brands only getting better , "creating every master piece better than our last release".
putting supreme in your lookbook doesn't make people regard you as highly as them, it makes you look like you're trying to ride the wave and compensate for poor quality product

stop being so butt hurt, take the criticism people are giving you and move on
Video has little value (no pun intended). Rocking supreme has nothing to do with your brand identity or your products.

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Apr 29, 2013 @ 10:47
Video has little value (no pun intended). Rocking supreme has nothing to do with your brand identity or your products.

SPEC MIL - RARE1
ONE OF A KIND
49° 15'N 123° 6W
RARE1 CLOTHING CO
EXECUTED WITH PRIDE
#rareoneofakind
it actually has a lot to do with brand identity tbh

@lotusapparel did ONLY use the same fabric as the last tee for a bucket hat, or just something similar? noticed it in the discussion thread yesterday, not trying to rip on yall just curious

Apr 29, 2013 @ 13:26
You're coming off as corny and a little condescending. First off, your explanation for the drug metaphor is a reach to be honest. Realistically most customers aren't going to sit down and try to analyze your metaphor, it's not like you're a big brand so it's not worth their time. Do something different to promote your clothes via a video lookbook because creating fake drugs, sipping 40s and wearing supreme just ends up making your video look like a tumblr production lol. If you want people to understand your symbolism, YOU have to define it for them and actually tell what the lifestyle is. No one is going to look at your shit and say "Gee wilikers, their clothing represents the infinite nature of humans". Don't act like you're some high thinking designer when your ideas/concepts are recycled ideas that you didn't even bother to define for your audience. "Narrow minds form bad opinions. Lions dont lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Elevate your thinking young gods." Fuck outta here with that pretending-to-be-deep-but-not-really nonsense. None of your stuff even remotely provokes the thought of higher thinking. Elevate your product bro.
Well aren't you clever. You have some really good points on consumerism, but the tumblr production your talking about is a critical marketing concept that has been extremely beneficial via $ALE$. Its the same idea that all upcoming hiphop artist happen to be wearing either : 10deep, supreme, the hundreds, blackscale, diamond ect. because subconsciously or consciously it provokes the person to consume that image. Of course its only obvious you need to promote your own image and meaning behind your brand but when your dropping your first collection like us here at VLS this allows us to enter the industry more highly regarded by CUSTOMERS/CONSUMERS and viewed just as highly as the brands we appear next to, hence why you see like 5 supreme caps in one frame and more supreme beanies on the couches lmao. Our brand carries a very conscious ora and encourages self enlightenment and freedom from mental slavery which will be executed more in the coming collections. For this video frankly deadlines were not met, production fell behind, and the video suffered because of that. Stick around though you have some good criticism and our brands only getting better , "creating every master piece better than our last release".
No, upcoming hiphop artists are doing something different now. They're bringing back the roots of the game, while putting their own twist on it and making it refreshing. All those brands you listed created their own method/style and that's something you should look at when trying to market your brand. They've built their image over the past years/decades to a point where x brand is synonymous with y. If you place your brand with supreme hats scattered all over the video, most people will just focus on the supreme instead of your brand. The whole point of a lookbook video is to show off YOUR product, and in that scene with everyone on the couch? Pretty sure that there was no clear shot of your infinity logo tee. Make your product stand out instead of coming up with a detailed paragraph of gibberish trying to explain your company. Every brand's goal is to create a better product with each collection, make it your goal to set the bar for other brands.

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Apr 29, 2013 @ 18:03
Heavyset SS13 Collection now available 
http://weareheavyset.com/collections/ss13 

Lookbook photo and video: http://weareheavyset.com/pages/collection





 


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Apr 29, 2013 @ 21:35
Releasing our Summer Part 1 line tonight at 6pm PST. Going to be having a bunch of releases throughout the summer. Keep locked.




Damn, this shit is dope

- System

Apr 29, 2013 @ 21:43

- System

Apr 29, 2013 @ 22:13
Apr 29, 2013 @ 22:58
Heavyset SS13 Collection now available 
http://weareheavyset.com/collections/ss13 

Lookbook photo and video: http://weareheavyset.com/pages/collection





 


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paisley tee nice

hot water

Apr 29, 2013 @ 23:27
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
Apr 30, 2013 @ 00:47
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
Stay away form "kings" lol trust me , change the name or if you really like it , like genuinely like it, then do something wit the "thieves"

- System

Apr 30, 2013 @ 04:00
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
There's a few options when creating a brand:

1. Printing stuff yourself. You've got to buy or lease your equipment, which is probably out of the question if you're starting up for under a grand or two. A cheaper, and shittier, alternative would be using heat transfer printing, which is essentially using special paper you can find at Walmart and ironing it onto a shirt. Lasts around 15 washes before crackling to the point of it being unwearable, for me, at least.

2. Paying somebody else to print. That's what, from what I've seen, most low to mid scale companies(pretty much every brand on here) do this(If anybody on here prints themselves, please speak up. I'd love to hear all about the process). Find a company you can trust, with prices that leave room for profit. I'd also heavily suggest finding secondary printers and the like that you can trust, in case your primary flakes. Some people sell these sources, but, for the most part, good sources can be found by extensive Googling.

3. Printing on demand. This would include sites like Cafepress, Printfection, Redbubble, Skreened, and so on. These use methods like direct to garment printing to print their designs on, and only print a shirt when it's ordered, meaning no sitting with stagnant inventory. These sites are usually reserved for the casual 'pop culture' shirt such as this one: http://skreened.com/wellthatsjustsuper/i-m-not-saying-i-m-batman These services are, in my opinion, no way to start a brand. You have little control over the printing process, there's no distinct branding, along with some other glaring flaws. I would not recommend it for starting out a clothing brand, rather for an artist trying to make some money on the side from selling funny shirts.

Since I'm apparently writing a small book, I might as well cover shirt blanks. There's no definite answer on shirt blanks, as they're up to target market and your personal preference. There's fitted(FUCT and SSUR) and box cut(HUF) shirts, all organic and synthetic ones. I, personally, like a box cut shirt made out of thick cotton, but you'll probably like something else. The material of the shirt matters as well, as certain printing methods won't work on certain blanks, such as with dye sublimation printing and cotton shirts. I'd highly suggest reading HTSACC's article of shirt blanks here: http://www.howtostartaclothingcompany.com/t-shirt-blanks-how-to-choose-one/

Some more required reading would definitely be Thread's Not Dead: http://threadsnotdead.com/ It covers a good amount of subjects, mostly from the viewpoint of a designer.

Reading back on this, I feel more and more like I just talked out of my ass for 3 paragraphs. If I'm wrong on anything here, somebody please correct me.

hot water

Apr 30, 2013 @ 04:44
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
first thing i think of is crooks and castles because it basically is the same concept.
Apr 30, 2013 @ 05:36
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
There's a few options when creating a brand:

1. Printing stuff yourself. You've got to buy or lease your equipment, which is probably out of the question if you're starting up for under a grand or two. A cheaper, and shittier, alternative would be using heat transfer printing, which is essentially using special paper you can find at Walmart and ironing it onto a shirt. Lasts around 15 washes before crackling to the point of it being unwearable, for me, at least.

2. Paying somebody else to print. That's what, from what I've seen, most low to mid scale companies(pretty much every brand on here) do this(If anybody on here prints themselves, please speak up. I'd love to hear all about the process). Find a company you can trust, with prices that leave room for profit. I'd also heavily suggest finding secondary printers and the like that you can trust, in case your primary flakes. Some people sell these sources, but, for the most part, good sources can be found by extensive Googling.

3. Printing on demand. This would include sites like Cafepress, Printfection, Redbubble, Skreened, and so on. These use methods like direct to garment printing to print their designs on, and only print a shirt when it's ordered, meaning no sitting with stagnant inventory. These sites are usually reserved for the casual 'pop culture' shirt such as this one: http://skreened.com/wellthatsjustsuper/i-m-not-saying-i-m-batman These services are, in my opinion, no way to start a brand. You have little control over the printing process, there's no distinct branding, along with some other glaring flaws. I would not recommend it for starting out a clothing brand, rather for an artist trying to make some money on the side from selling funny shirts.

Since I'm apparently writing a small book, I might as well cover shirt blanks. There's no definite answer on shirt blanks, as they're up to target market and your personal preference. There's fitted(FUCT and SSUR) and box cut(HUF) shirts, all organic and synthetic ones. I, personally, like a box cut shirt made out of thick cotton, but you'll probably like something else. The material of the shirt matters as well, as certain printing methods won't work on certain blanks, such as with dye sublimation printing and cotton shirts. I'd highly suggest reading HTSACC's article of shirt blanks here: http://www.howtostartaclothingcompany.com/t-shirt-blanks-how-to-choose-one/

Some more required reading would definitely be Thread's Not Dead: http://threadsnotdead.com/ It covers a good amount of subjects, mostly from the viewpoint of a designer.

Reading back on this, I feel more and more like I just talked out of my ass for 3 paragraphs. If I'm wrong on anything here, somebody please correct me.
Nah man these are solid points. I will suggest to just do as much research as possible...there's even a couple books. I actually have this one and even though I knew most of the information before the read it was just to learn even more and for fun. Certainly check it out.

http://www.t-shirtmagazineonline.com/how-to-start-tshirt-business/

http://thedividedminds.com/

Apr 30, 2013 @ 07:59

WE WERE HERE FIRST preview
OneThreeFive Clothing
Philadelphia, Pa

store:
http://onethreefive.bigcartel.com/
blog:
http://slidinski.tumblr.com/

slidinski.tumblr.com

Apr 30, 2013 @ 08:00
Gwappy Boys

GWAPPY BOYS Pocket Tee
OneThreeFive Clothing
Philadelphia, PA

store
http://onethreefive.bigcartel.com/
blog
http://slidinski.tumblr.com/

slidinski.tumblr.com

Apr 30, 2013 @ 20:01

Feeling like Bishop from Juice

Apr 30, 2013 @ 20:23
Where can i get a tank like this, but full print???
Apr 30, 2013 @ 20:26

WE WERE HERE FIRST preview
OneThreeFive Clothing
Philadelphia, Pa

store:
http://onethreefive.bigcartel.com/
blog:
http://slidinski.tumblr.com/
This is what comes to mind when i think of "OTF" 

- System

Apr 30, 2013 @ 21:17
Apr 30, 2013 @ 21:19
putting supreme in your lookbook doesn't make people regard you as highly as them, it makes you look like you're trying to ride the wave and compensate for poor quality product

stop being so butt hurt, take the criticism people are giving you and move on
I really don't think it makes a difference, where can i look at your shit and the lookbook video anyway
Alright, your brand just lost me with the supreme girl font on a shirt and all the fucking supreme hats in your vid. Obviously you love fucking supreme.- CHECK
 -The video has you packing fake coke and cooking crack when you know damn well you probably never moved any sort of weight in your life. Which makes you look like an idiot. -CHECK
-The video was just poorly executed. Looks like a Supreme LookBook since that's all i see , some corny ass kids packing drugs, and hopping over the subway turnstyle cause you about that life.... LOL
Apr 30, 2013 @ 21:34
I dig the posters they're pretty clean. Not a big fan of girls on shirts. Keep it up tho...
Apr 30, 2013 @ 23:07


http://www.nfzclothing.com/

NFZ (No Fly Zone) Clothing is a streetwear company that focuses on strong character branding. The designs depict social taboos, or social “No Fly Zones”, that are not talked about.Rather than promote a particular lifestyle or subjective idea, NFZ Clothing aims to capture a certain level of social consciousness through the mediums of strong character branding, bold colors, and simple designs.The goal of NFZ Clothing is not to take a stance on a social issue, but to merely bring it to light. This allows the audience to form their own interpretations and ultimately, use social taboos as a vehicle to share their own viewpoints and connect with each other.

 -NFZ Clothing

Apr 30, 2013 @ 23:46
Really interested in Starting a new line, Thieves & Kings. I don't even know how to print clothes(should I find someone to do it for me, or do it myself) what should I invest in, etc. I have some dope designs down. PLEASE HELP ME, Give a beginner some advice.
There's a few options when creating a brand:

1. Printing stuff yourself. You've got to buy or lease your equipment, which is probably out of the question if you're starting up for under a grand or two. A cheaper, and shittier, alternative would be using heat transfer printing, which is essentially using special paper you can find at Walmart and ironing it onto a shirt. Lasts around 15 washes before crackling to the point of it being unwearable, for me, at least.

2. Paying somebody else to print. That's what, from what I've seen, most low to mid scale companies(pretty much every brand on here) do this(If anybody on here prints themselves, please speak up. I'd love to hear all about the process). Find a company you can trust, with prices that leave room for profit. I'd also heavily suggest finding secondary printers and the like that you can trust, in case your primary flakes. Some people sell these sources, but, for the most part, good sources can be found by extensive Googling.

3. Printing on demand. This would include sites like Cafepress, Printfection, Redbubble, Skreened, and so on. These use methods like direct to garment printing to print their designs on, and only print a shirt when it's ordered, meaning no sitting with stagnant inventory. These sites are usually reserved for the casual 'pop culture' shirt such as this one: http://skreened.com/wellthatsjustsuper/i-m-not-saying-i-m-batman These services are, in my opinion, no way to start a brand. You have little control over the printing process, there's no distinct branding, along with some other glaring flaws. I would not recommend it for starting out a clothing brand, rather for an artist trying to make some money on the side from selling funny shirts.

Since I'm apparently writing a small book, I might as well cover shirt blanks. There's no definite answer on shirt blanks, as they're up to target market and your personal preference. There's fitted(FUCT and SSUR) and box cut(HUF) shirts, all organic and synthetic ones. I, personally, like a box cut shirt made out of thick cotton, but you'll probably like something else. The material of the shirt matters as well, as certain printing methods won't work on certain blanks, such as with dye sublimation printing and cotton shirts. I'd highly suggest reading HTSACC's article of shirt blanks here: http://www.howtostartaclothingcompany.com/t-shirt-blanks-how-to-choose-one/

Some more required reading would definitely be Thread's Not Dead: http://threadsnotdead.com/ It covers a good amount of subjects, mostly from the viewpoint of a designer.

Reading back on this, I feel more and more like I just talked out of my ass for 3 paragraphs. If I'm wrong on anything here, somebody please correct me.
We actually do the printing by ourselves. It is not that hard of an process, just takes a good learning strategy and practice actually. We use the screen painting process, for designs up to 2 colors (because of how hard it is) instead of printing onto the shirt directly we make screen painting transfers which we believe is the best because we can create multiple transfers from one "screen" and it is cost effective. For the 2+ Colors we actually have a sublimation printer that prints like a regular printer but uses the same liquid that big companies would use to make their shirts. The equipment we have cost under $1000 together, it is a screen painting machine which cost $320 and the sublimation printer cost $300 and transfers come in around $200 we actually picked up a free heat transfer machine. We looked at all the methods you stated and seemed as if that was the best way for us to customize it and not work around other companies prices. It actually is a better feel for the shirts than when you get another company to print on clothing because a lot of cut and sew products would be hard for other companies to print on so the customization is a HUGE difference and that makes all the difference in the clothing industry now-a-days. My friend and I went to a summer training program for 4 days to learn everything about screen-painting and how it was a good alternative. To remind you, it takes a learning curve to actually do it and it takes a lot of effort and practice, but we are 15 and 16 years old and we learned and there may be people younger than us on this thread but we are probably the youngest as it goes (I turn 15 in 1 month). Thats just what we thought. Overall, screen-printing and sublimation printing for your self and doing it yourself is just better for customization and if you have cut and sew products that require some type of logo or print that companies cannot do. We try to make it custom as possible to stand out.

OWNER // AXCIE // AXCIEFACTORY.COM

May 01, 2013 @ 00:14
Distant Light : love that cat design -- maybe on a raglan in black and white or on a hoodie in the back and a simple emblem on the chest for the winter??? 

Heavy Set : Tight Work... very clean 

Lotus : Good Shit.... the last shirt reminds me of a local artist in Miami called Ahol Sniffs Glue... I'm sure you didn't copy him, just reminds me of him.... Those buckets are tight to. 


I'm finishing up my look book... I'll post it next week when I drop my new shirts... 


Been seeing a lot of cool shit.... 

NEWBIES: take the advice given to you and stop trying to justify... take the L and move forward. 

al dente company // aldenteco.com

May 01, 2013 @ 00:38

"I keep myself so lifted I'm accustom to new heights."

May 01, 2013 @ 01:34
Hey guys, new to the forums so bare with me. But i can't figure out how to upload pics from my phone. So I'm asking u guys to check out our instagram to see some of our designs. Me and my team have been working on this brand for a while now and we should be dropping our first collection some time over the next two months. So if u have the time please check out web.stagram.com/n/leaderofcoolmoons/ and give us some feed back. Thank you
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