But isnt that what a forum is all about? Peoples opinions on certain topics and having a discussion about it.. Might turn into a debate but for me i always like to read other opinions on things.. May disagree or agree but i i still like to read em... In this case, wouldnt mind reading why u dont like crossfit since i havent yet tried, still like to see another opinion on it...
Okay, well I'll keep it brief, as there are plenty of things you can read online about this debate. If you search for why Mark Rippetoe left, you will also find an article by John Sheaffer from Greyskull Barbell about why he left. Mark has been in the game forver; I think everyone knows about Starting Strength at this point. John is also a strength coach who has his own linear progression program which is becoming very popular.
First of all, I don't think that CrossFit is conducive to proper/safe form, considering that a novice lifter is asked to come in and deadlift or powerclean 25 reps in a workout. They also teach a few things that are questionable, like the kipping pull-up. If you read the description of the kipping pull-up, it states that when properly done, it minimizes upper body pulling. What exactly is the point of performing a pull-up if your goal is to minimize upper body pulling?
I don't think CrossFit is anything more than an aerobic workout. There is weight training involved, but the weight used is not enough to stress the muscles and result in adaptation (strength gain). For example, the power clean is used to build explosive strength. It is loaded heavy, and performed for 5 reps on a traditional strength plan. If you are asked to perform 25 reps on a power clean, then there is no way you have enough weight on the bar to stress the body to the point of adaptation. You are merely doing an aerobic workout.
I think if you want to get in there and burn some calories and get your conditioning up, it's probably a good program, but I (like many others) don't believe that it's doing anything for strength. I also think that CrossFit workouts are just thrown together to remain new and keep people interested. I don't think their routines are backed by any proof of their effectiveness. For example, adoboFosho just said "there was a day with squats paired with jump rope double unders." I'd like to see someone find a strength coach that recommends that workout.
The best plans, in my opinion, involve heavy resistance training with 2 or 3 intense cardio sessions a week (not exceeding 10 minutes). For example, in 5/3/1, Jim Wendler has you in the gym 4 days a week training a major compound lift each time, then 2 or 3 nights a week he suggests you go out and run hill sprints for 10 minutes, or do prowler pushes. If your diet is good, you are going to get stronger and better conditioned on a plan like this.
I think a common misconception is that a strength plan means you aren't doing any conditioning, and that's just not the case anymore. In a recent interview I saw with Mark Rippetoe, he was raving about prowler pushes, Wendler strongly suggests hill sprints and prowler pushes in his 5/3/1 book, and John Sheaffer says the same in his Greyskull Linear Progression book.
I'm not really impressed by YouTube videos that show 1 person excelling at a WOD, because it's impossible to know all their details. Maybe a WOD video shows a guy deadlift 400 pounds, but what if that guy came into the CrossFit gym being able to deadlift 400 pounds, and that's all he has deadlifted with for a year now? If I see a video on YouTube of someone deadlifting 400 pounds that says they've been on Starting Strength for 3 months, then I know that they have used linear progression to get to that point, meaning each workout leading up to that 400 he has been able to add weight to his deadlift. That means that each workout he is stressing his body, adapting, and coming back stronger. From what I've seen on CrossFit (and I could be wrong here), they tell you what weights to use, so you will reach a point where there is no longer any stress/adaptation.