Edit: Thanks. Missed that.
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I can say these are a huge upgrade from the carabiner. The weight on these is surprisingly heavy...not sure if you were pleasantly surprised when you first held the Glass Ash Tray we did, but it's kind of that same feeling where your expectations are exceeded by pictures you first see online. I think you guys will love these. If you're on the fence and in LA - def stop by the store to check them in person.
Good looking out, I think I may just have to pick it up.