Small DENIM Questions Thread

Jan 17, 2012 @ 16:41
my (rather) new n&f deep indigos keep bleeding on my suede sneakers, is there anything that I can stop this problem? I already sprayed impregnator on it..


Try tape. Put a layer of tape on the inside of the denim leg opening to prevent it from bleeding on your shoes.
Jan 17, 2012 @ 23:36
Should I shrink my raw denim before i go get it tapered? Or vice versa?

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Jan 18, 2012 @ 02:33
Has Pure Blue Japan ever released denim that wasn't raw? Well besides the no fade blacks...

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Jan 18, 2012 @ 02:42
UndefeatedJK My suggestion is to shrink it first. Cause then they might shrink to how you like it. You don't wanna taper them first then shrink because they might be too skinny afterwards.

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Jan 18, 2012 @ 03:47
Thanks. I want to shrink them ALOT. Would putting them in the dryer after soaking them make them shrink alot?

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Jan 18, 2012 @ 03:47
Whoops. Double post.

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Jan 18, 2012 @ 04:09
Interested in a pair of samurais or pure blue japans, could anyone tell me any substantial difference between the two? I'm looking for a slim tapered fit. Also in terms of quality which one is better?
Jan 18, 2012 @ 04:35
Interested in a pair of samurais or pure blue japans, could anyone tell me any substantial difference between the two? I'm looking for a slim tapered fit. Also in terms of quality which one is better?


Which pairs of Samurai's and PBJ's exactly are you looking into?
Jan 18, 2012 @ 05:01
Ahh sorry the 710 or the xx-011 or xx-013
Jan 18, 2012 @ 06:17
Those 2 models of PBJs will be slimmer than 710s.
Jan 18, 2012 @ 17:42
Question concerning n&f.
a friend of mine is new to the raw denim game and it will probably end up with some deep indigos.
What do you recommend for sizing on the different fits?
after some research i'd recommend size down 1 or 2 for the weird guys and slim guys and size down 1 or tts for the skinny guys.
are you d'accord?
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Jan 18, 2012 @ 22:40
Should I shrink my raw denim before i go get it tapered? Or vice versa?


I would shrink before you taper. If you taper first, you may not be happy with the fit after shrinking later.

Has Pure Blue Japan ever released denim that wasn't raw? Well besides the no fade blacks...


Most of PBJs models are also sold as one-wash.
Jan 18, 2012 @ 23:33
Thanks. I want to shrink them ALOT. Would putting them in the dryer after soaking them make them shrink alot?


A super hoat soak for 30 mins should do it. You can put them into the dryer but that may make them more softer, more indigo loss, and put in some creases down the lines.

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Jan 19, 2012 @ 01:05
Thanks. I want to shrink them ALOT. Would putting them in the dryer after soaking them make them shrink alot?


Putting denim in the dryer will get you maximum shrinkage, but how much total shrinkage you get depends a lot on what kind of denim you are trying to shrink and if it is sanforized or not. What kind of jeans are you trying to shrink?

Interested in a pair of samurais or pure blue japans, could anyone tell me any substantial difference between the two? I'm looking for a slim tapered fit. Also in terms of quality which one is better?


I don't think there's a huge difference between the two brands. Both are high-end Japanese denim brands that mostly use slubby, unsanforized denim. PBJ generally uses lighter weight denim and costs a little bit less than Samurai, and Samurai uses heavier weight denim and generally has nicer cosmetic details. Both are excellent brands, you can't go wrong with either one.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 02:56
Awesome thanks for the info. I've decided to go with PBJ, fan of the taper. Also I saw on BiG that the xx-011 and the xx-013 now fit the same just different fabrication process and dying. How would I size on either pair, TTS or size down 1?
Jan 19, 2012 @ 16:18
Awesome thanks for the info. I've decided to go with PBJ, fan of the taper. Also I saw on BiG that the xx-011 and the xx-013 now fit the same just different fabrication process and dying. How would I size on either pair, TTS or size down 1?


I haven't worn either cut in a couple of years, but when I owned a pair of XX-013s, they ran really big. I had to size down 2 from my actual waist measurement just to keep them from being really baggy right from the get-go. I think they've changed the cut since then, they may not run as big anymore.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 16:46
Also for the one wash pair they just did that to get the shrinkage out right? Sorry for the barrage of questions just wanna make sure before I make my first high-end purchase.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 18:27
Im planning on buying a N&F + Flat Head collab based of the weird guy fit. I can where a size 30-32 in levis 511. The smallest pair they have left is a tagged 30 but the size chart lists it at a 32 (why tag it at 30????). How do people usually size the N&F weird guys. Does it stretch at all because even at 32 i would need a belt. So in a sense i would be sizing up. I dont know how the wierd guys usually fits, can someone enlighten me on whether to look into it or would sizing up be a bad decision.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 18:53
I've worn weird guys and I would say go TTS since the denim is un sanforized it will shrink 1" in the waist. Usually you would size down 1 otherwise. The weird guy has a low rise and is a slim fit with a tapered leg. You should just send them a message.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 19:09
Also for the one wash pair they just did that to get the shrinkage out right? Sorry for the barrage of questions just wanna make sure before I make my first high-end purchase.


Yes, the one wash is mainly to get the shrinkage out.
Jan 19, 2012 @ 22:56
I've worn weird guys and I would say go TTS since the denim is un sanforized it will shrink 1" in the waist. Usually you would size down 1 otherwise. The weird guy has a low rise and is a slim fit with a tapered leg. You should just send them a message.


Waiting on their response. My TS is 31. Would the tagged 30 (size chart 32) suffice? Or would i go by the chart, which would be a 29(31) (sold out smh(( )
Jan 19, 2012 @ 23:18
I would believe so, yes. I've purchased weirdguys TTS and 1 size down, the TTS was wearable but baggy. Since this denim is un sanforized it will shrink.
Jan 21, 2012 @ 13:30
unbranded tapered sz32

had em 2 years, but probably wore em like 5-6 months total. they were accidently washed, dried, and folded, so now i have this ugly ass crease on the left leg. anyway to get rid of it? or lessen how sharp it looks?
Jan 21, 2012 @ 16:01
Figured I would ask here. I'm looking for some clean, simple chinos that would fit a 29x30. Just looking for a nice slim fit. I need to pick up a pair of khaki, grey, and brown chinos.

I have slim 30x30's from BR but they aren't that slim and the 30 waist is too wide. Still gotta cuff em too which sucks.

Any recommendations?
Jan 25, 2012 @ 01:20
It feels like its gonna take me years to get any fades on my N&F Skinny Guy Broken Twill, I wear them as much as I can... What can I do to speed up the process at least a little?! Does exercising in them, in the gym help?
Jan 25, 2012 @ 01:26
Go ride a bike.
Jan 26, 2012 @ 00:26
As stated in my sig I'm on the market to buy new denim... I'm going for a thicker slubbier denim this time compared to my lightweight APC PS, but I want to keep the same fit..

Which brands out there on the higher end are better? IH/FH/PBJ/Samurai,etc

and what fit?
Jan 26, 2012 @ 00:28
It feels like its gonna take me years to get any fades on my N&F Skinny Guy Broken Twill, I wear them as much as I can... What can I do to speed up the process at least a little?! Does exercising in them, in the gym help?


Anything that requires you to move around in them helps. Obviously themore you do the faster they'llfade. Just be committed and wear them any chanceyou get and it'll start fading in no time
Jan 26, 2012 @ 02:36
If you want slubby, #1 choice is PBJ
Jan 26, 2012 @ 15:14
Or Oni
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