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OFFicially Official: The New Porsche 991 Carrera

Sep 20, 2011 @ 15:52

friend was up at Pepperdine University this past weekend taking his niece back to school and look who decided to crash the party. a caravan of germans smokeyface not only the CS, but what looks like the 991 turbo mule, next gen boxster, and next gen cayman
Sep 20, 2011 @ 23:06
New Porsche boss Matthias Muller stops absently stirring his coffee and fixes his piercing blue eyes on me: "Definitely not," he snaps. I'd just asked whether the increase in the size of the new 911 -- it's now more than a foot longer and almost eight inches wider than the 1963 original -- meant it was no longer Porsche's sports car. "The reason for the wheelbase increase is to improve comfort and dynamics. Walter Rohrl has driven the car 13sec faster than a 997 around the Nurburgring."

Porsche seems a touch sensitive to suggestions that the new 911 is more a GT than a pure sports car, even though one of the development goals for the car, code-named 991, was to make it more comfortable as a grand tourer. As it happens, I'd seen Rohrl, the lanky rally and race legend who's now Porsche's hot-shoe at large, the night before and asked him how the four-inch wheelbase stretch -- and the subtle repositioning of the engine further forward in the chassis -- had affected the handling. "Much better," he'd said. "The turn-in response is now very good, and the longer wheelbase gives you much more confidence."

Will there never be a Cayman that will outperform a 911? "If I look at pure performance numbers," says Muller thoughtfully, "then maybe." But then he quickly adds he believes Porsche's two sports cars are aimed at two entirely different customers -- substitution between the two cars is less than five percent in the United States. And with Turbo and Turbo S versions of the new 911 still to come -- as well as GT3 and GT2 variants -- you can bet there will always be at least one 911 variant that will be faster than even the hottest Cayman in the future.

You also get the sense the decision to develop a seven-speed stick shift may not have been part of the original 991 program; that the smooth and lightning-quick PDK seven-speed automated manual was intended to be the only transmission offered on the new 911. The seven-speed stick, which won't be available until March next year, is based on parts from the PDK transmission, and features a sequential shift lock mechanism that will only allow seventh to be selected from fifth or sixth gears -- a subtle acknowledgement that negotiating the tightly-stacked shift gate in a hurry will be tricky.

Indeed, if you look at Porsche's claimed performance and efficiency numbers, the PDK is clearly the higher-performance transmission of the two -- both the Carrera and Carrera S models with the PDK are quicker to 60 mph and more fuel efficient than the stick-shift equipped versions. But as long as the customer asks for it, says Muller, Porsche will build a stick-shift 911. The next GT3, he says, will not have a PDK transmission. smokeyface&)smokeyface&)smokeyface

Will there be a 911 in the new line up that will surprise us? "It's too early to tell," says Muller. But be prepared for a big change with the new 911 Targa. Muller says the problem with the 997-series version is that it was "not a real Targa". So the next Targa will look more like the original, with its black roll-bar and wrap-around rear window? "We have some plans in that direction," he smiles. smokeyface

Porsche is also working hard on hybrid and plug-in hybrid powertrain technologies. Could we see a hybrid version of Porsche's icon in the future? Muller doesn't rule it out: "If this [technology] will be available at 911 level is under discussion," he says simply.

With its flat-six engine still hung out behind the rear wheels, an available stick-shift, and design cues that hark back half a century to Butzi Porsche's original, the new 911 is most certainly still a car defined by its past. But Porsche's new CEO clearly sees no reason to change that: "From our point of view, the 911 is a true icon and represents all the values that are important to the Porsche brand."
Sep 20, 2011 @ 23:08

How can a fucking CARRERA in fucking SILVER look so aggressive. Porsche hit it out of the ball park with this one.
Sep 21, 2011 @ 06:44
^ It's a great looking car undoubtedly, they just have to fix the clusterfuck of lettering they threw on the back of it and I'll be happy.
Sep 21, 2011 @ 22:40

aerokit cup option
Sep 22, 2011 @ 11:03
^ If by horrible you mean the double spoiler setup with a spoiler on top of the duck-tail, then I agree. It should have a normal rear spoiler setup like the Turbo/GT3/GT2/etc., but otherwise it looks barely any different.
Sep 22, 2011 @ 12:45
the two pieces of the option are the front bumper and the rear spoiler. both of which I think are horrible.

These options, on the other hand, are not horrible.

Oct 05, 2011 @ 00:27

Oct 06, 2011 @ 10:30
Tbh I'm not feeling the appearance of the car... it reminds me of the 996 l0l.

All good doe, 997 gt3's are depreciating at a decent ratr so smokeyface
Oct 07, 2011 @ 23:47
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wide body smokeyface
Oct 27, 2011 @ 20:29

Oct 29, 2011 @ 00:09
damn it looks so sinister compared to the 997

Melo Gang All Day

Nov 11, 2011 @ 00:22
Agate Gray is definitely my favorite color and it is way cheaper than GT Silver as well

would look amazing with natural espresso leather. really reminds me of audi aviator gray/old school porsche slate gray.
steve mcqueen anyone?
Nov 11, 2011 @ 22:06

Nov 19, 2011 @ 20:02
Aite People, Sport Auto's Tests are in.
Sport Auto's tests are unrelated to any car manufacturer and are unbiased and most people use them as a true measure of a car's performance

Sport Auto Supertest _ Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)
Equipment: 400hp, PDK, PCCB, PASM -20mm,
Weight: 1497kg
0-100 km/h: 4.2s
0-200 km/h: 14.1s (997.2 Carrera S PDK does it in 14.9s, 997.2 Carrera GTS does it in 13.8s)

Hockenheimring Short Course: 1:10.4 (same time as 997.2 GT3 on SEMI-SLICKS, 3 seconds faster than 997.2 Carrera S PDK, also faster than a FERRARI 458 ITALIA [1:10.5])
Nurburgring Nordschleife: 7:44 (same time as 997.2 Turbo S, 4 seconds slower than 997.2 GT3 on CUP-TIRES)

Seems like the car didn't gain much in straight line performance but is a much better handling car. Maybe the extra 4 inches of wheelbase was a great idea after all.
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