I guess climate plays a big part in the higher denim weight you choose, haha.  But your opinion is very logical, thanks! You've convinced me to go with a medium-weight--which I think is probably better than going head-first with heavy weight denim when I'm completely new to the whole concept, haha. I've been checking out so many brands from forums and other denim websites and whatnot, but from what I've seen, the fades on many of the N&F pairs are pretty remarkable. I recently just discovered Ande Whall (Roy looks pretty neat too), and damn, I'm pretty tempted to spend that extra cash!  But $35 for shipping, and the fact that I'm purchasing my first pair of raw denim ever..even though I know my measurements, I'm quite skeptical about jumping the gun.  I'll probably stick to a pair of N&F, or maybe even 3Sixteen's (ST-211?!). P.S. Anyone know how the fades are between Indigo vs Deep Indigo hues (for simplicity's sake, let's assume same denim weight), specifically from N&F brand?  I'd assume deeper/darker indigo has higher contrast fades.

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[Quote]I'm not at all experienced with raw denim, but from what I've read, a good way to determine your size is by actually measuring a good fitting pair of jeans you already own, and comparing them to the sizing charts on [URL] since those are fairly accurate measurements.  I went to IKEA to grab one of those cheap paper measuring strips/tapes, haha.  However, every pair can vary slightly (larger or smaller) a bit.  I also recall others saying that making sure that the thighs fit without too much discomfort is key to sizing right, as the thighs only stretch very minimally. Nightwalker, why do you recommend deep indigo for a first pair over Elephants?

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Hello, I'm new to the whole raw denim scene (don't own a pair yet), and I've decided N&F is probably a good starting-point/brand for me to get into raw denim with.  I was wondering if anynone has a recommendation on which pair would be a great pair to start me off?  I've broken down my options to: -Elephant 2 -Broken Twill Selvedge -Deep Indigo Selvedge -Left Hand Twill Selvedge -Jade Selvedge (seems really interesting!) I live in Houston (but I'm new to the climate--recently moved here), so the climate may play a part into this decision ?  But it's already September, so.. Would going with Elephant 2, or Elephant 3 (22oz, and 19oz respectively) be jumping the gun for my first pair? Mainly, I guess I'm looking for a pair that fades well/fast so I can see whether or not raw denim is right for me (but I think I'd like it..I usually don't read reviews and forums for a whole week on something that doesn't interest me).  From what I've read, for the N&F brand, LHT and deep indigo colors fade the fastest? Also, I've read about the whole broken-twill and left-hand twill techniques..but how exactly do these differ in terms of how they look post-fade from regular, right hand twill?  The technical descriptions don't really provide any insights on that, haha. Edit: After looking at some evolution pics of the Dirty Fades (though there are seldom any at all), I've decided to return the pair I ordered from Amazon.  I am currently leaning towards going straight for a pair of E3's, but no stockists have my size! Thanks in advance for any insight and advice!

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