Yeah, some of those people try to bring up other things into the mix when arguing about a specific subject. Here's my take on diving, do it if you can get away with it. I see it as being similar to 'street smarts'. If you poccess a certain quality, then use it to your advantage or don't get caught. Gerrard is an excellent player (tough to admit...), but he's not the type of player that can get away with diving. He makes it seem so awkard it's almost embarassing to support the guy. Diving is an art of its own and leave it to those that can pull it off best. I mean, that's why its a punishable act when caught. It's fair to both the diver and the opposing team. Just defend better I guess and not be so careless. Because fuck, my dad would kill me if I didn't dive when possible. I wouldn't say I had to work on it, but I had to utilize it to my advantage. Nothing wrong with winning a free kick/penalty, right? You gotta be naive not to dive.