Thank fellas! Rich, hell naw. I've never smoked or drank nor do I have kids, that frees up a lot of money right there. I just stay away from trends and seek more timeless stuff so I can wear it longer...on sale of course. The Vusvim model is the skynard double ring moccasin. Wishezz they didn't drop off my new shipment yet, should be in on Monday :-/.