prop 8

how does prop 8 "push shit on churches"?

If prop 8 passed a lot of things could have happened to hurt the church. In another state a church was sued for not renting their location to a gay couple who wanted to get married. I also fear that churches will lose some of their rights to preach against gay marriage because it will be considered a hate speech of sorts. I admit these wouldn't have been the direct effects if prop 8 didn't pass but it is a big step towards that. The thought of churches being penalized for not allowing gay marriage in their church gives me chills. By the way I'm not religious at all I just feel church needs to be respected.

that would make gay marriage legal, and thus the chances of our young children learning that gay marriage is acceptable would become inevitable.

You guys took my shit with "sex with dogs" way to far. It was only said to debunk the whole "it doesn't hurt me" and not to say gays are molesters or freaks.

and to illy, You think i don't have a right to speak my opinion because I haven't had an account that long. Am i a second class member or some shit. Debate without taking cheap shots.

The main reason I supported prop 8 was it pushes shit onto churches. I believe in separation of church and state, religion shouldn't have a say in government and government should mess with religion. And to take a religious right and give it to open sinners is wrong. I know everyone sins, divorce, cheating and all that but it just goes to far.

A lot of you don't even have shorties so your opinions are based on what you might feel in the future. For me, it's not a comfortable issue to be discussing. Respect that.

who cares, i live in washington state! woot

Bitch, it has nothing to do with being a homophobe. Introduce that shit when they're older and understand the context. Just because it hasn't happened yet in your local schools, doesn't mean it's not happening elsewhere. My daughter comes home from school one day at the age of 3 and asks why her friend has 2 dads. How would you feel if you had to explain to your kid about gay marriage at that age. A lot of you don't even have shorties so your opinions are based on what you might feel in the future. For me, it's not a comfortable issue to be discussing. Respect that.

In my own honest opinion, I do not feel comfortable with the fact that my young kids would be subjected to the possibility of being taught that marriages between homosexuals is "normal," because of the fact that it is a direct contradiction to the beliefs I wish to instill in my children.

As I have stated before, matters such as these truly depend on the person and their OWN morals, values, and what they regard with high priority.
In my own honest opinion, I do not feel comfortable with the fact that my young kids would be subjected to the possibility of being taught that marriages between homosexuals is "normal," because of the fact that it is a direct contradiction to the beliefs I wish to instill in my children.
For others, like many of you, there is definitely no problem whatsoever with your children being taught about homosexual marriages and such, and I have no problem with that. As stated before, people have their own sets of convictions that I am aware of and respect, because I am none to judge.

but like i said earlier, you don't want that. you want to take rights away from people, at the expense of your own humanity. if not having kids learn this was truly a concern for you, there are plenty of ways to go about stopping that. you could even speak with the individual school and ask that your child be sent out of class while that type of instruction is being taught. but you don't wanna do that. you just want to force your beliefs on other people and completely ignore their sovereignty. i understand. that's fine, i just want you to say (type) it. just say it. you don't give a damn about the rights of other people if it doesn't coincide with what you believe. Freedom and equality for all, as long as they share your beliefs. AMIRITE? AMIRITE?