College Discussion Thread.

Apr 13, 2012 @ 10:58
lol things i dont know about? i go to a top 10 undergrad business school, where do you go fag? stop reading shit online when i've actually talked to mba professors about their opinions on this shit. fuck out of here
Aren't you one of the ppl that go to usc here? It's high on the rankings but pretty sure it's not top 10.

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Apr 13, 2012 @ 14:42
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Apr 13, 2012 @ 18:02
^^^have fun with the debt fam.
Apr 13, 2012 @ 19:42
^^must be nice going to school in sunny socal
Apr 13, 2012 @ 19:56
lol things i dont know about? i go to a top 10 undergrad business school, where do you go fag? stop reading shit online when i've actually talked to mba professors about their opinions on this shit. fuck out of here


esse is right though...outside of top 10 or 15 is not worth it if your looking to get into high finance or consulting. of course those are not the only ops after mba, but those are the most well paid. and taking into account how inflated business school tuition is these days, it just isnt worth it to drop 60k+ on bschool if you are not gunning for fat coin after. doing an mba is not about learning; it is 95% brand recognition and making connections, the two most important things in the business world.
Apr 13, 2012 @ 20:52
true unknown mba is better than no mba, but getting into a incredibly competitive field like consulting (management consulting), ibd at a bank, investment funds, etc, will be extremely difficult from a 2nd tier mba. obviously nothing is impossible but it will be near impossible and make your life very hard. bottom line is if you can't get into a top mba program and you want to get into MBB, mega funds, bulge bracket, even just a well known firm, etc, it is better to take those gmats again or get some more work experience before accepting a spot at a second rate mba program
Apr 14, 2012 @ 06:51
Thanks guys for the input/feedback. It really helps to ease my nerves when making decisions.

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 06:56
Anyone???


Csuf is one of the four impacted csu's, with sdsu, pomona, and long beach included. I heard the party scene there is pretty good. For filipinos, Friendship games is a wild event. Orgs from all over CA come to rage, but again it's full of bop ass pinoys. It's located in a pretty good area too, there's a shit ton of food places. I go to SDSU, and I have a few friends there who I haven't heard any complaints from aside from being homesick. I honestly wish I got into Fullerton instead of SDSU, but to each his own.


friendship games was sick, did you go?

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 07:04
I'm planning to attend UCSC but it's pretty expensive...how do you guys plan to pay off your loans beside work-study and scholarship? I want have enough money saved to pay most of it off by the time I graduate.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 07:07
lol things i dont know about? i go to a top 10 undergrad business school, where do you go fag? stop reading shit online when i've actually talked to mba professors about their opinions on this shit. fuck out of here


esse is right though...outside of top 10 or 15 is not worth it if your looking to get into high finance or consulting. of course those are not the only ops after mba, but those are the most well paid. and taking into account how inflated business school tuition is these days, it just isnt worth it to drop 60k+ on bschool if you are not gunning for fat coin after. doing an mba is not about learning; it is 95% brand recognition and making connections, the two most important things in the business world.


Not picking on you specifically, but this is the problem with business students. I was on a MBA forum the other day and every other thread was "How much money will I make if I get into Investment Banking", "How much money will I make if I get into Consulting", etc. I hope you younger guys aren't picking what you study based solely on a potential paycheck, because you're setting yourselves up for a miserable life with a lot of disappointment. The hours people put in doing investment banking and consulting aren't even worth the paycheck, but that's something most people probably don't even bother to consider.

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 07:29
got 30,195.00 from UCSC... says estimated cost of attending (including room&board) would be approx. 30,195.00 lol... any idea how accurate this is? About $8k will be loans, though I have a small chunk of money saved up, so I'm not stressing too bad.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 19:08
esse is right though...outside of top 10 or 15 is not worth it if your looking to get into high finance or consulting. of course those are not the only ops after mba, but those are the most well paid. and taking into account how inflated business school tuition is these days, it just isnt worth it to drop 60k+ on bschool if you are not gunning for fat coin after. doing an mba is not about learning; it is 95% brand recognition and making connections, the two most important things in the business world.


Not picking on you specifically, but this is the problem with business students. I was on a MBA forum the other day and every other thread was "How much money will I make if I get into Investment Banking", "How much money will I make if I get into Consulting", etc. I hope you younger guys aren't picking what you study based solely on a potential paycheck, because you're setting yourselves up for a miserable life with a lot of disappointment. The hours people put in doing investment banking and consulting aren't even worth the paycheck, but that's something most people probably don't even bother to consider.


this is true, people should not try to break into banking for the money. kids who do get into banking and work slave hours for those first 2 years do not do it for the money. they do it for the learning experience and exit opportunities. i banking will not make u rich, but it sets you on a path to be successful in finance. the majority of kids do not continue in ibanking after their 2 or 3 year stint, because they move on to better opportunities with better lifestyles after they have that experience under their belt and on their resume.

of course i am bias as i work in the field, but working in banking does not mean miserable life. sure hours suck and there is some stress, but it is competitive and exciting. you talk and work with smart people and you learn something everyday. it is a work hard play hard mentality and if you are up for that, i think it is a great job to start in. and plus u know that no matter where u want to go within business after, u will have something credible on ur resume that really allows u to enter the conversation
Apr 14, 2012 @ 19:24
i worked at an investment bank and everyone is a pretentious asshole, if you like that kind of environment then go for it
Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:22
of course i am bias as i work in the field, but working in banking does not mean miserable life.


Are you at a BB?

Agreed that most people go in it to put in the 2-3 years and then get a better exit op.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:24
can anybody tell me whats so appealing about business besides money?...who is truly passionate about business?
Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:30
@ powerball.

(My most serious answer on this account actually)

USC is a respectable university, but it is definitely not a top 10 Undergraduate Business school. Outside of the Los Angeles area, USC is not too well known. It is a good school, I give you that, and you can start your future out there very well. But to say it is a top 10 business school would be a fallacy.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash USC. I applied to USC as well out of my senior year of highschool and thought about my future if I were to attend USC as opposed to attending another more known brand name school. I had a full ride to USC (my family is not too rich, plus scholarship), but in the end decided I would not attend the school. The trojan family is strong in southern california, but I also intend to work business out of California and eventually I decided to go to a NorCal school instead.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:32
Originally posted by Inactive User
can anybody tell me whats so appealing about business besides money?...who is truly passionate about business?


Some people I know love following the markets, trading, analysis. I admit that it's interesting to see how so many different factors affect the markets. It's really a game of risk.

They say those who are in it for the money won't last long. That may be true, but there are some people I've met who are mostly in it for the money, if not having a little bit of interest in what they're doing.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:45
@ powerball.

(My most serious answer on this account actually)

USC is a respectable university, but it is definitely not a top 10 Undergraduate Business school. Outside of the Los Angeles area, USC is not too well known. It is a good school, I give you that, and you can start your future out there very well. But to say it is a top 10 business school would be a fallacy.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash USC. I applied to USC as well out of my senior year of highschool and thought about my future if I were to attend USC as opposed to attending another more known brand name school. I had a full ride to USC (my family is not too rich, plus scholarship), but in the end decided I would not attend the school. The trojan family is strong in southern california, but I also intend to work business out of California and eventually I decided to go to a NorCal school instead.


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Apr 14, 2012 @ 21:48
@ powerball.

(My most serious answer on this account actually)

USC is a respectable university, but it is definitely not a top 10 Undergraduate Business school. Outside of the Los Angeles area, USC is not too well known. It is a good school, I give you that, and you can start your future out there very well. But to say it is a top 10 business school would be a fallacy.


I don't know where its business school ranks, but USC is definitely a well known university. U.S. News ranks it 23rd in the United States. It has been around since 1880.

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 22:57
just won a FAT scholarship for writing a 2page paper puahaha. i dont get the money till another 4 months though.

sure. but the tuition and opportunity cost of going to b-school is just not worth it unless you can't get into a top school. the payoff just doesn't make sense.

the tuition of a b-school is a fraction of a top 20 school doe

i think a top 20 mba school is something people in finance/IB and executives should look into. for things such as management or IT, I dont think it matters all that much as long as your school has a relatively reputable program.
Originally posted by Inactive User
can anybody tell me whats so appealing about business besides money?...who is truly passionate about business?

the idea of starting a venture capital or coordinating the operations of a business/project as well as taking on the risks and making decisions that will maximize the firm's interests, is very rewarding in itself imo and is not necessarily about money
Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:05
i think a top 20 mba school is something people in finance/IB and executives should look into.


I think if you work for a big enough business, getting into a top MBA program takes very little effort on the executives behalf. I would imagine that a lot of the big financial institutions in the US have connections to top MBA programs for their executives.

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:06
Don't get me wrong guys, USC is a really great school. I do agree it is a top 25, just not top 10. That was my main point this whole ordeal. Yes USC is 23 in US News, and I'm sure it won't be there for long. This last year we've seen a drop of admission rates from ~2x to ~18, so it is most definitely climbing the charts at a fast rate. Yes USC is prestigious. I do not disagree with that.

I have plenty of friends at USC Marshall right now and I've been to many of their parties (28th street heh). I just wanted to disagree with it being top 10. I'm not too sure how US News rank top 10 undergraduate business programs because I'm sure Cornell does not have a business undergraduate program (closest is economics). I am a bit shocked that Stanford is not on the list because it is near one of the biggest entrepreneurial area in California, the Silicon Valley and there are plenty of opportunities there. Although I also believe USC I heard somewhere USC is ranked 1 for entrepreneurship? Anyways I chose stanford, said so a few posts up. It's a chill school.


Edit: Also very interested in B-School, so keep those posts coming. Grades aren't doing so well so I doubt I'd be able to make it into Stanford again for B-School...
Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:11
It does not. MS&E management science is what it is.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:12
i think a top 20 mba school is something people in finance/IB and executives should look into.


I think if you work for a big enough business, getting into a top MBA program takes very little effort on the executives behalf. I would imagine that a lot of the big financial institutions in the US have connections to top MBA programs for their executives.

You still need to impress the school with what you did during your undergrad years and how well you score GMAT. that is even more important imo. even if you work for merrill & lynch, you wont get into stanford mba programs with a 2.5gpa.

rankings are mostly a bunch of marketing bs though but it apparently works very well. probably not the same case for law schools though.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:17
Pretty sure you won't get hired at Merrill Lynch with a 2.5.
Getting an interview at a big name company requires a good GPA first.


Edit: On the topic of MBA, going to a top tier school is obviously the best option is you can get in and afford it. But there's nothing wrong with going to a lesser known school. One of my cousin's fraternity bro went to some state school for his MBA but that was only because he worked in a small city and the company he worked at wanted him to get an MBA so he went to the closest school and worked full time, school part time, got tuition and books covered by his company and even got extra money from the company he works at.

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Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:17
^Yeah rankings are pretty much a bunch of BS. The opportunities you get at a top 10 school wouldn't vary too much.
Apr 14, 2012 @ 23:23
as long as you're at a reputable business school or a reputable school regardless of major, if you have a 3.7+ gpa+ you can score an ibanking internship and job.

pretty sure you will have to be in finance, accounting, or econ... id imagine it's pretty hard to get into IB as a marketing major.

in my field though (IT) and many other technical fields, gpa matters very little after your first job/internship unless you want to go to grad school of course
Apr 15, 2012 @ 00:32
lol things i dont know about? i go to a top 10 undergrad business school, where do you go fag? stop reading shit online when i've actually talked to mba professors about their opinions on this shit. fuck out of here


lol usc would be a safety school for me. stop talking so much shit.
Apr 15, 2012 @ 01:41
im a junior transfer...i don't even want to continue this and won't respond again.
Apr 15, 2012 @ 01:45
i've heard of people majoring in engineering getting jobs in IB. my friend who majored in math and comp sci also got a job in IB. as long as you're smart and hard working people will hire you even for a position in IB.


They like to see a strong math background. UC Berkeley has a Masters in Financial Engineering and most of the kids who get accepted into it aren't finance majors, they are engineering, mathematics, computer science, etc.

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