August 30, 2008 @ 11:18 AM
CanIKickIt?

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*dead* @ sportfreak point

Regardless, McCain has to shift his campaign to him now. What is he going to say about Obama now? He can't continue the "not experienced" attacks he was going with.
August 30, 2008 @ 12:08 PM
Obeyprop

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it's like playing chess
August 30, 2008 @ 12:51 PM
damnwitless1

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I'd smash...

All I do is smoke weed and listen to MF DOOM innercitykidsmusic.com

August 30, 2008 @ 02:58 PM
meowmeowmeow

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Anyone else think Obama's daughters are really cute?

I mean this in a non-sexual way. They're cutie pies you know.


LOL. I was watching the acceptance speech at my dorm with mad people, and when they showed his daughters I said "You know the one on the left will be 18 sooner than we know it" and EVERY dude broke out laughing. lol someday...


I will not take part in this political debate. But we all see what it's turning into, sex and race wars. it was strategically a smart move for McCain to make, but now I hate him even more for turning this competition into such a fucking circus. A HUGE FUCKING JOKE.
August 30, 2008 @ 04:25 PM
zeezyo

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mccain picked a woman vp to counter obamas blackness. obamas vp and mccain cancel each other out in terms of old whiteness.

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August 30, 2008 @ 07:01 PM
STNDRD

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Fuck old people and bitches.
August 30, 2008 @ 07:06 PM
Juki

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I just saw this and honestly, I think McCain just lost the race cause hes looking desperate. Its obvious hes making a strategic move only to get womens vote. If some women are stupid enough to fall for it then so be it but he still wont win cause the same people who are racist and wont vote for Obama are probably sexist also.

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August 30, 2008 @ 07:16 PM
ice13water

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id honestly hit that
August 31, 2008 @ 02:17 AM
casino

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www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137

Apparently, her 'son' is actually her grandson.
September 1, 2008 @ 01:14 PM
pnsho

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Apparently, her (jailbait) daughter is preg.


www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26496189
September 1, 2008 @ 01:28 PM
iconstatus

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I want us Democrats to take back the White House ... but I also wouldn't mind having a naughty librarian as our VP. This is quite the dilemma.
September 2, 2008 @ 12:27 PM
D!an3

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Obama got all the attention, because he did something that was highly successful. Not even his biggest critics can say that his speech was subpar. Mccain is now "holding the ball" in terms of your analogy, because he did something unexpected and risky. He isn't getting attention, because his VP pick is widely considered a sound choice.


I was referring to the whole campaign, not just his acceptance speech. And that day, McCain actually congratulated Obama on his achievements. I never stated that Obama’s speech was sub par. However, Bill Clinton’s speech was more convincing. Obama gave a great speech, but it wasn’t his best.

Announcing palin as vp a month ago would have been a far more intelligent move. Then he would have really lived up to the "groundbreaker", "maverick" names given to him. Choosing a female vp now, just looks like a reactionary move to steal dissatisfied clinton supporters. Do you really think choosing a pro-life, pro big oil, hunting advocate, with ties to pat buchanan (an enemy of israel), is an intelligent way to counter the charge that mccain represent the old politics of the bush administration?


An Intelligent move for who? Def not McCain, would have been more advantageous for Obama though. His Palin pick serves two purposes- 1 it brings in those conservative voters who don't see McCain as conservative enough, and 2, obviously bring in female voters, especially those dissatisfied Clinton supporters.

Plus, your discussion of the points differential is misleading. Mccain was only even to up earlier, because Obama was on vacation. In terms of your sports analogy, that's like a team catching up, by scoring while the other team was in the locker room. If that's what it takes to get up, there's a problem.
Depending at which poll you look at, for example, the Rasmussen Poll had McCain up by 7 points on 4/10-4/13. Was Obama on vacation then too? So tell me how I’m misleading?


If mccain (or his advisors) didn't think he could be successful, nobody would have invested the money necessary to fund his campaign. Period. Plus, the fact that he's enjoying some level of success while bush has a low rating doesn't mean anything, because mccain has made a concerted attempt at separating himself from bush. Hence his "change that makes sense" line earlier.


Are you serious, do you know anything about Politics? Ever heard of Ross Perot? How about, every other candidate that was up in the primary including Biden and Hillary Clinton. They all lost except for McCain and Obama, did their supporters and advisors not contribute to their campaign? Or how about Ron Paul, his supporters are still going strong, he has no chance but they’re still going at it. NO ONE thought McCain was going to be the Republican Nominee point blank, if you follow politics you know this. The fact is that he is different from Bush, I’m pretty sure he didn’t even vote for Bush. And if McCain is so alike to Bush, why did John Kerry ask McCain to be his VP?

I think it's too early to say whether this pick is smart or not. It all boils down to whether or not people can look beyond the media representation of palin, and see what her stances really are. If people are sick of bush, and consider her stated positions, then this pick may have been the misstep that puts obama in office. If people (female clinton supporters especially) get wrapped up in the potential for a landmark female holding office, it may be exactly what mccain needs to capitalize on obamas decision to leave hillary out.


It might be too early to judge, the impact in the long run. At the moment I think it was smart move. All the attention was on McCain and Palin on Friday, no one was really talking about Obama’s historic speech. It was also smart b/c he came out of left field, the Obama camp wasn’t ready to “attack” Palin. Unlike McCain who had a video ready for Biden the second he was announced. Also after his VP selection, he got $12 million of new contributions.

EDIT: Mccain and palin don't agree on abortion. Palin is mad pro life. She says that a woman who is raped should have to carry the child to term, and not have the choice to abort it. She is ridiculously religious. She wants to teach creationism in public school right alongside darwin and evolution. Palin would essentially have kids go around believing dinosaurs were really walking around at the same time as men lol.


So the Pres and Vp must agree on everything to the t? Biden voted for the war on Iraq….

And btw, I’m not a republican or a McCain supporter, I just happen to not like either and can somewhat be objective. I’m also a political junkie. cool
September 2, 2008 @ 01:02 PM
eMily

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Apart from the fact it looks like he chose her simply because she has a vagina and not because she has the skills to do the job, I don't think they make a good duo. She makes up for the fact that many republicans consider him to be too liberal but her political experience is miniscule and McCain seems to only really be knowledgeable when it comes to military matters - which makes me think this isn't the best partnership.

I find it funny she's opposed to sex education and wants abstinence only education because maybe if sex education was better in schools her daughter wouldn't be up the duff right now.

Not that it matters because none of the candidates are going to be my president but I don't agree with the vast majority of Palins political positions. She's way too conservative for my liking.
September 2, 2008 @ 05:01 PM
D!an3

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Sex education does not deter unwanted pregnancies. I work for the NYC dept of Ed, we hand out condoms, ppl still get knocked up left and right. So to state that if her daughter received sex education she wouldn't be pregnant is a huge assumption, that is neither here nor there with Palin's politcal qualifications.
September 2, 2008 @ 06:11 PM
eMily

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^I was being facetious with that comment.

I know sex education isn't the be all and end all of teenage pregnancies but better sex education could have an impact on the amount of kids getting pregnant. That wasn't my point anyway, I was just pointing out that to me personally, it's strange that someone with a pregnant teenage daughter would be opposed to sex education in schools.
September 2, 2008 @ 06:53 PM
meowmeowmeow

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wtf is thread about VP or pregnant bitches?
September 2, 2008 @ 07:24 PM
IamSean

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Sex education definitely does prevent a lot of unwanted pregnancies. I know it seems obvious to everyone on this board, but you'd be surprised at how many younger teenagers think that you can't get pregnant if you're having sex for the first time...or having sex upside down...or other really stupid shit like that. It may not have prevented Bristol Palin's pregnancy, but without sex education we'd have a bunch of knocked up 14 year olds with a shit load of herpes and pubic lice, haha.
September 2, 2008 @ 07:45 PM
dtrader

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D!an3...

I brought up obamas vacation, because your original post stated "Last week some polls had mccain up, of course within the margin of error but the obama camp must be worried." Since you said "last week" (and not back in april), I could only assume you meant that weeks polls, not the ones from 4 months ago lol.

Similarly, I mentioned the attention obama was getting at the time (as opposed to over the whole campaign), because your original post said "Last night obama had the ball and today mccain has it". That analogy coupled with the reference to mccain choosing his running mate, gives the impression that you're talking about current events. I wasn't really trying to focus on how his speech ranked, just draw attention to the fact that it was a positive event that gave him back the ball, as opposed to mccain regaining possession on what may end up being reviewed as a false call (to continue the sports analogy lol).

Palin would still be the same candidate, with the same stances, so any conservatives she's drawing now, would've been drawn then for the same reasons a month ago. If she was added before, she would come off as another female to vote for (who happens to have very anti-feminist stances). Now she just looks like a marketing gimmick. It's almost demeaning to women. Its like...since shes a woman too, no matter how against womens rights she is...they'll still vote for her. Choosing her now vs. before clintons defeat has far more disadvantages than anything else.

Ross Perot is possibly the worst example to bring against what I said about candidates having a chance to succeed, or not getting funding, because he largely funded his own campaign. Clinton is also a bad example, because she stayed in (and continued to get contributions), to pay off her campaign debts. The fact is, nobody stays in the race unless they or their advisors think they can succeed (in some respect). Ron Paul stayed and is succeeding in drawing attention to himself and his little outcast cause. Not everyone in an election determines success in terms of election. I never said they only got contributions if they could get elected.

I never said that mccain was very similar to bush. I simple stated that his success has nothing to do with the state of bush's approval ratings because he has made a concerted effort to separated himself from that administration.

I also never said that a pres and vp must always "agree on everything to the t". I simple pointed out a few of palins stances that are different from those of mccain, because you asked.

btw...I'm not a democrat, obama supporter, or political junkie...I jus have mad free time at work to read and write about ish.
September 3, 2008 @ 10:02 AM
D!an3

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yea Ross Perot was not the best example, but my point was simply that people run, and invest money in campaigns even though they know they won't win. And I stand by my statement that no one ever thought that McCain was going to be the GOP nominee.

I appreciate your civil discussion with me; I don
September 3, 2008 @ 10:04 AM
JoshDunkHead

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id hit it.



based on this pic, i probably would too (real talk) cool
September 3, 2008 @ 10:07 AM
CHEEP

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September 3, 2008 @ 10:14 AM
K BOOG

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you guys know DAMN WELL if joe biden had a 17 year old daughter and she was pregnant, in high school and not married the religious right and evangelicals would be ALL OVER THIS story talking about how dem's dont have religion, if they did these situations wouldn't happen because this is a perfect example of abstinence and of whats wrong with the left. they'd be bashing the left non stop about how this is whats wrong with the country etc...
September 3, 2008 @ 10:20 AM
nadu

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mehh


lolol made me spit my water.
September 3, 2008 @ 10:39 AM
JoshDunkHead

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oh shit.
i wasn't payin attention when i was lookin thru the page and was like DAMN! now i KNOW id hit haha
September 3, 2008 @ 12:20 PM
CanIKickIt?

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you guys know DAMN WELL if joe biden had a 17 year old daughter and she was pregnant, in high school and not married the religious right and evangelicals would be ALL OVER THIS story talking about how dem's dont have religion, if they did these situations wouldn't happen because this is a perfect example of abstinence and of whats wrong with the left. they'd be bashing the left non stop about how this is whats wrong with the country etc...


Yep, I can already imagine what FOX wouldve done.
September 3, 2008 @ 02:21 PM
capt_save_a_h0

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September 3, 2008 @ 11:15 PM
Til I Collapse

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Damn I can't tell which pics are real and which aren't anymore, or maybe I just really want this one to be.

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