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June 30, 2008 @ 08:25 PM
Langox510x

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I honestly think this is great news. There has been much speculation that because of all the lawsuits eBay will more then likely take a lot more action against fake sellers on eBay.

[SIZE="2"][b]A French court ordered eBay to pay 38.6 million euros ($61 million) to luxury goods group LVMH (Louis Vuitton) for allowing the sale of fake merchandise, in a ruling immediately appealed by the online auction website.
Paul Sakuma / AP
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Monday's decision, a month after eBay was ordered by another French court to pay handbag maker Hermes 20,000 euros for allowing the sale of counterfeits, is the latest episode in a long fight between luxury goods makers and the world's biggest online auctioneer.

"We will fight all these decisions in the name of eBay users, and we have decided to appeal," eBay said in a statement.

"If counterfeit goods are put up for sale on our site, we scrap them as soon as possible," it said.

"Today's decisions are not about fighting counterfeiting. It's about LVMH's desire to protect commercial practices that exclude all competition," it said.

LVMH claimed damages of about 50 million euros because it said eBay's French arm had not done enough to prevent sales of counterfeit items.

Monday's ruling decided separate cases by several different LVMH brands -- LVMH and Dior Couture as well as perfume brands Dior, Guerlain, Givenchy and Kenzo.

Ebay has been sued by jewelers Tiffany, which accused it last year of turning a blind eye to sales of counterfeits, and faces action from L'Oreal over the sale of perfumes on the site.

The issue, which potentially has important implications for online commerce, has particular resonance in France which has some of the world's biggest luxury goods makers and which has been at the forefront of efforts to fight counterfeit goods.


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Luxury goods groups accuse eBay, which earns a commission on sales made through its site, of facilitating forgeries and counterfeits by providing a marketplace for vendors who knowingly sell fake items.

EBay says it has stepped up efforts to fight counterfeits through programs that analyze suspicious sales patterns by particular vendors as well as VeRO, or verified rights owners, a system that helps block sales of counterfeits.

But the group, which saw around $60 billion worth of goods sold across its platforms last year, says that as a host for independent vendors, it has only a limited responsibility and capacity to regulate what is sold on its site.

The conseil des ventes, the group that represents mainstream French auctioneers, has also sued eBay, which it accuses of trying to circumvent laws regulating the auction sector by claiming to be a broker.
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eBay claims they have stepped up their efforts against fakes, but I honestly feel like that is bull shit. It's hard enough for buyers to even flag a post.[/B]
June 30, 2008 @ 08:38 PM
1234

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i am a fan of kaws, and when i saw a bunch of counterfeit Original fake tees, especially ones that were the same model as the tee i have myself( bought from legit dealers of course), I had to take action, i chated with the ebay help line, and they sent me these pages to fill ina form and shit, after filling it they sent me back a email sayign they can not let me know what the progress was cause i am not the owner of the company. then week after week i checked the exact same seller selling the same fake stuff was still being sold. when i fully provided proof since kaws himself stated that some auctions selling his artwork was fake with fulll pix from the auctions in his blog, ebay still did shit to protect copyrights.
June 30, 2008 @ 08:41 PM
Calborn

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i am a fan of kaws, and when i saw a bunch of counterfeit Original fake tees, especially ones that were the same model as the tee i have myself( bought from legit dealers of course), I had to take action, i chated with the ebay help line, and they sent me these pages to fill ina form and shit, after filling it they sent me back a email sayign they can not let me know what the progress was cause i am not the owner of the company. then week after week i checked the exact same seller selling the same fake stuff was still being sold. when i fully provided proof since kaws himself stated that some auctions selling his artwork was fake with fulll pix from the auctions in his blog, ebay still did shit to protect copyrights.

ehh, it's their loss then.

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June 30, 2008 @ 08:44 PM
owensA

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Ebay is so user centric there really isn't much they can do IMO. What are they gonna do scour the thousands of listings that come up every minute and somehow try to determine their authenticity? If anything they should make everyone have fully public feedback and try to make sure only one account can be created per individual.
June 30, 2008 @ 08:48 PM
Langox510x

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Ebay is so user centric there really isn't much they can do IMO. What are they gonna do scour the thousands of listings that come up every minute and somehow try to determine their authenticity? If anything they should make everyone have fully public feedback and try to make sure only one account can be created per individual.


It's not like they'ed have to check every listing. eBay should have a flagging system much like on craigslist. When a buyer sends a flag then eBay should investigate the auction. I have had auctions taken down for far less then what these sellers are doing. Also, they have the money and the resources. It would cost a lot more for eBay to at the least try and deal with the problem then to deal with these lawsuits.
June 30, 2008 @ 08:52 PM
goatfacekillah

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ebay has a flagging system, you flagging flaggot
June 30, 2008 @ 08:55 PM
Langox510x

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ebay has a flagging system, you flagging flaggot


Thats gotta be the second infraction I've had to give out today.smile
June 30, 2008 @ 09:17 PM
Benny Lava

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that didnt deserve an infrac if you ask me.

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June 30, 2008 @ 09:30 PM

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great news. ebay is filled up with fakes


but i wanna cop a fake multicolored LV monogram wallet and laser engrave DIPSET on it (cuz its dipset and I wont loose 480$ for this)
June 30, 2008 @ 09:46 PM
meowmeowmeow

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actually this is going to suck for us who are second hand sellers. Because one the things they might impose will be a serial number check for items sold. Most online shops will need better forms of identification for the clothing bags w/e, and we'll have to wait much longer to sell things, and it will get harder to sell things sad but w.e good for buyers
June 30, 2008 @ 09:48 PM
owensA

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^^ i doubt they'll go as far as to have a serial number check. A ton of ebay shit is second hand as you said plus a lot of items just don't have serial numbers to begin with. Ebay isn't going to put so much of their business in jeopardy.

I think the EU is kind of in the wrong in terms of the fines, it's kind of like suing New York City b/c that gucci wallet you bought on Canal Street was fake...
June 30, 2008 @ 10:01 PM
pebblesiscool

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think this will make second hands good cheaper now? lol
June 30, 2008 @ 11:05 PM
AntonyT

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lmao @ the infrac..

damn im so glad this happened..ebay had that coming
July 1, 2008 @ 02:42 AM
KUSH

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ebay is makin money off of the fees so i dont think they really give a fuck unless its a large company that has the money to take legal action
July 1, 2008 @ 03:42 AM
Denny Crane

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ebay has a flagging system, you flagging flaggot


Hahaha, unnecessary hate is hilarious!!
July 1, 2008 @ 06:27 AM

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Thats gotta be the second infraction I've had to give out today.smile


unnecessary
July 1, 2008 @ 03:07 PM
Langox510x

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Location: Oakland, CA/Stevens...

Damn son, he was just playing, but do you.


Didn't know he just needed one more to get banned. That man has been acting a fool though. Don't know if u saw the pic of the buck naked hung male porn star. That shit was not cool. I contacted the admin last night about it, but I guess it's in their hands now.

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