Well, here's a question for you. Jesus wore clothes, didn't he?
But he didn't rock Supreme made in workshops like we do.
So why is there a Bible?
You musta never been to a sweatshop before or else your words would have been more sympathetic. So I'll give some insight on sweatshops because I've visited a couple in Bangkok. Hostile conditions, long hours, alot of regulations to produce a certain amount of shoes in little time, chaos. That is what I felt from one of the Nike ones. Who most say are at the leading forefront for sweatshop ethics.
Great answer but it strikes me as just false information that has been fed to the masses.
And no offense, but references to Karl Marx's "bourgeoisie" doesn't make you sound more intelligent. All you needed to do was call them middle to higher class.
Actually all that emodies a religion is in the form of "information." What else would religious people rely on, hearsay?
I know what bourgeoisie is, and of its definition before Marx. I only said Marx as an example because he was famous for using the term. I was only pointing out how lame it was to use the word, when you could have easily said higher class. That is all.
I follow but I fail to make the connection. It's rather vague to say it like how you have done in your opinion.
Are you saying that without "written literature", religion can exist?
Actually I would. I believe in information that is correct is valid. That was why I used the term information; meaning the absolute truth.
What religion are you talking about? Because as far as time, people have used carving as a form of writing before a common language was acknowledged.
Originally posted by Inactive Userhmmm this dude SK1 is wise
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in anything except my hands and mind which dictates my life.
That was precisely what I was trying to explain. My interpretation of the usage of "information" so you weren't flustered.
So you wouldn't consider cave drawings an interpretation of a writing tool because it has infact been dated back 30,000 plus years.
lol...but why?...dont you believe in cause and affect..everything comes from something right?..just because we cant perceive it doesn't mean that its not there..i just feel that many people who are atheist let the corruption of religion guide them away from the concept of God. it seems like you hate religion so much that you refuse to believe that there is a God.
Writing is defined as tracing characters, letters, words. etc. so I used it.
Yes I do agree that Christianity is based on faith, but what dictates their faith is what's in the Bible which can only be true or false. There is no in between.
Removing knowledge for faith is not entirely true at all. One cannot find God without text. It is just impossible to think otherwise.
I do believe in cause and effect but only human nature controls that. If I shoot someone, I will go to jail. Period. And to answer your second question, my parents are mildly Buddhist so I grew up apart of that "lifestyle" so there was little hate for God or religion in general. It is only through classes I have taken in the past and just my overall experiences in life that have led me to my final thoughts. And not all religions believe in God too.
Yeah but his teachings and beliefs were written in the gospels. In a way it was greater than a movement because of that.
You're proving my point. As you do not believe in the Bible, you view it as information, as literature, as either true or false. But for the believer this is not the case. Its the Testament of God. You're missing the importance of the experience a Christian has while reading the Bible. It isn't simply "information" or "knowledge." Since you are an atheist, you have not had this experience, and therefore it may be hard, probably impossible, for you to understand this concept.
Whether the idea of removing knowledge for faith or belief is true or not is missing the point, it is the essence of Faith, believing in something "in spite of."
Example: "I believe Lazarus rose from the Dead, because I have faith in that belief." It's almost paradoxical. Knowledge will challenge this belief, but for the believer it simply does not matter. Why? Because of their Faith, their experience of it being so strong they will dismiss whatever knowledge may contradict it for their Belief.
But you're the one who made the bold statement of removing knowledge for faith or belief. Would you like to take it back? It's unfathomable that someone who lives deep in the jungle of Ha Long Bay for example, would be able to "find God" without text.
I am god, so I can do whatever I want. I simply chose to observe rather than act. I choose not to prove my power, but I could do so at any point in time if I really wanted to. I created all of you. prove me wrong!!