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There are many religious hospitals and there are vetteran of war hospitals, city hospitals, county hospitals and so on.
Thats like saying prove evolution to me without using Darwin's theory. You're using evolution as if it were factual when it is best on a faulty theory and has been disproven many times over (for decades). The world is not flat either. Now that's circular reasoning at best and based on nil or nada. Atheists deny and just argue and agnostics are just that ignorant of God and the Bible. We can argue or discuss. In arguing you use it to protect your vulnerabilities but discussion is so much better and constructive and you're more open minded to hear others perspective.
Christians are into many different things and have many different interests. The entire western hemispheres claim to be Christians so I don't speak on all their behalf. But I do know that there are Christians into death metal, hardcore, fashion/street wear etc.... We can hold many of the same interests but we hold different beliefs and morals.
I think you have a false illusion of what true Christianity truly is and based on stereo types and maybe even bad experiences. Religion is man's attempt to reaching God. Karl Marx stated that religion is the opium to the masses. But a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is God's attempt at reaching people.
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Thats like saying prove evolution to me without using Darwin's theory. You're using evolution as if it were factual when it is best on a faulty theory and has been disproven many times over (for decades). The world is not flat either. Now that's circular reasoning at best and based on nil or nada. Atheists deny and just argue and agnostics are just that ignorant of God and the Bible. We can argue or discuss. In arguing you use it to protect your vulnerabilities but discussion is so much better and constructive and you're more open minded to hear others perspective.
Let’s turn the tables now. Here are a few questions for you. How many atheist and agnostic hospitals are there? Where are the humanitarian efforts led by atheist and agnostics? What are some positive contributions in general as a group that have been made by atheist and agnostics in our society or in any other society? This is a question we are already know the answers to but I’m not quite sure if you know this yet. None.
Are you KIDDING ME? there are COUNTLESS organizations that deal with humanitarian issues and help people that are completely secular (which btw, means having no involvement with religion). only religious organizations present themselves as such because they are 1) simply stating their beliefs and why they are doing so 2) hoping to capture the sympathies of fellow believers so they can continue to fund their efforts. nothing wrong with that. thats the basic BUSINESS MODEL for every church in the country. The reason there are not and probably will never be atheist or agnostic organizations of any real substance (other than think tanks or whatnot) is because atheism and agnosticism do not rely on strict doctrine and beliefs. someone can deny god for whatever reason they see fit. that makes them an atheist, but that does not mean they are the same as another who would deny god. lack of common beliefs keep things from becoming a religion, like other structuralized belief systems. so PLEASE, dont try to claim bullshit like atheists and agnostics have contributed nothing positive, lest we go ahead and list off all the negative things brought forth by religion (and you cant claim they werent true christians because they are reading the same book you are).
You may also say that well we atheist and agnostics never make those claims. That’s an excuse. That’s right, atheist and agnostics do not make those claims because they do not contribute anything positive to society.
i think i already addressed this
Here’s an example, Nietsche had three radical committed followers and we saw their destructive end. The dedicated followers were Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini. All three fell hard, died tragically, and led their societies to destruction and hopelessness.
for one, because some atheists tout nietsche as their role model, means that he stands for all atheists and agnostics? no. and just as though christian's can justify almost any action they want through selective reading, any body can read bits and pieces of a person's work (nietsche) and come up with justifications for their actions. They couldnt be TOO dedicated in their following, because nietsche's disdain for strict systems and penchant for perspectivism would not permit these tyrants' actions.
Faith and belief in God is a process. It’s a good thing and healthy to ask many questions about God. What’s not so good is staking a claim in a shaky or false foundation or shifting sand. I encourage you to keep asking questions with an open mind and open heart.
It is healthy to ask about RELIGION in general, including christianity, because if you never question something you can never truly trust your faith. But claiming that someone who does not believe in god is on shaky ground is false pretense that the bible is as solid (as far as your KJOist [permit my assumption] view) as stone under your feet./B]
For all you true intellectuals out there, read former atheist intellectual C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity.
[B]The trilemma doesnt prove anything, it just funnels your logic to a pretense that jesus was the son of god. the first two options are either that jesus was insane, or a liar. if you dont believe either of those, then obviously he must be telling the truth and he MUST be the son of god. But that only works if you DONT think he was insane or lying. Also, what if he neither lied, nor was insane, but through rumors and gossip, his reputation grew MUCH larger than he intended and people attributed him to certain qualities.
Remember, it is better to be thought a fool and say nothing; then to defend a false theory and be proven a fool.
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dude once again you didn't answer my question, that is, how can a supposedely good Christian be involved with 2 of the 7 deadly sins which are inherent within the streetwear culture.
Satan created streetwear and consumerism....and even good christians cannot resist temtation...especially when it is disguised as such a harmless activity as buying an allover hoodie.
What are you taling about there are thousands of hospitals and people who donate that have no affiliation with religion or a religious cause, they do what they do because it is right, not because it will make Jebus happy !!
Like i stated before. Creationism for evolution. I believe things were created to evolve and evolve they will. Same thing in the street wear game. Jordan I-jordan infinity. I belive in creationism becasue i believe in jesus christ as a devine being and god as one as well. I think evolution is explained by creationism.
Adam and eve is just a metapor. I belive that it was written to explain why the people should obey gods simple laws and rules (the commandments)
dude once again you didn't answer my question, that is, how can a supposedely good Christian be involved with 2 of the 7 deadly sins which are inherent within the streetwear culture. I know Christians do different things but guess what Christians have been mass murderers, that doesn't make them good Christians.
And by the way, evolution has much more evidence than merely theoretical claims; and no it has never been disproven. Even today the vast majority of Christians believe in evolution and if you've read an elementary science book and still don't believe in evolution I believe you may be beyond the reach of reason. And please, tell me how evolution is circular reasoning (obviously you don't know what that term refers to; which is the fallacy of "begging the question"; which evolution does not).
o ya and don't act like there aren't non-religious hospitals and humanitarian organizations b/c there are an immense amount. The entire UN and UNICEF comes to mind as one the most far reaching international secular organizations that is committed to the betterment of man.
Do you even know enough about evolution to disprove it with fact? Or are you just repeating what everyone who you hang out with says?
You do not need Darwin's principle to PROVE evolution, and it is not an abstract theory that cannot be observed. evolution is not some spontaneous mutative situation. that is reserved for creationism. you can view evolution in its minutest steps by observing any common pest, bacteria, virus, etc. If you have a petri dish of rhinovirus (common cold), and introduce it to a medicine (doesnt matter what it is to illustrate my point), the medicine will kill off MOST of the viral cells. however a few will survive. why did they survive? for some reason, their cellular makeup was strong enough that they could withstand the inhospitible environment the medicine created. and with the weaker cells killed off, the only cells left to reproduce are the ones that are more resistant. now not every "offspring" of that cell will be as resiliant as the original survivors, but there will be those that are, and perhaps some that are more adapted then the ones that spawned them. the farther ahead in generations we go, and provided that lineage happens to recieve the same treatment, in a very short time (relatively), you will have a high percentage of cells that are resiliant to the medicine. that is how evolution works. people seem to forget about "survival of the fittest", which means, whichever creature does NOT DIE, will be the ones to reproduce and pass IT'S genes on to the next generation.
The point of evolution is that a lineage of creatures adapt to survive, and after many many many generations of adaptation to a particular environment, if you were to compare their ancestor with the current generation, they would be different enough to consider them a different species. so please, disprove that if you would like. but being that what i described to you is FACT, and not theory, well then wouldnt that relegate the bible to "theory" and not the literal word of god, instead, a volume of works written independently, by people who already believed, who were trying to lay down their thoughts and in turn prove to others what they believed was right?
i do not deny the existence of god. but i do deny literal reading of the bible for such books as genesis and revelations.....especially since revelations is based on a dream someone had far after jesus had died, who, by all acounts of his followers, should be the only person to truly know what god intended... im sorry, but i cannot put much credence to the interperatation of a literary work by people who dont even celebrate the birth of their lord and savior anywhere close to when he was actually born, rather they celebrate it at the time of an adopted pagan roman holiday.
correct, and that is why apologetics are so common, because they do not want to be proven wrong.
sorry for the weird format...i hope everyone got that hte bold in the quote was me.
Prove Creationism... lol.. your faith is based off a book of stories and fables !!
Ive answered questions supposedly some of you thought Christians couldn't answer so go ahead and prove yourselves
Your Evolution belief is based off of theories that haven't yet been proved.
p.s we all got the right to different beliefs....
And the reason why your not getting answers is becasue no one cares enough to research (Well im just speaking on my behalf). You just seem to care alot about this that's why I am asking you questions.
