I can co-sign on the monkey brains. Doesn't harden too much if you don't use a lot. Murray's is on some atomic level; wouldn't recommend it being your first petroleum based. Dax and don't look back.only petroleum i ever tried was murrays at first just tried it once and gave up on the whole thing took to long to clean so then on i just did water based: random blue axe pomade, layrite super hold, monkey brains (discontinued had to get of ebay), this orange axe pomeade cus i didn't order and this cock grease xxx i posted earlier which was the best strongest hold i used and most shine using minimal productI know you meant water based washes out faster than petroleum based. But that's because water-based pomades are gels.Don't go water based. Get Dax Wave & Groom, Iron Society, or Grandad's Old Fashioned.water based washes out faster then gel
faster then normal pomade by a long shot
You'll never get the same flexibility of petroleum based pomades with water based ones. Plus Iron Society and Grandad's washes out with 1-2 washes, compared to Murray's which will stay in for a week.