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March 7, 2013 @ 06:33 AM
CHOPZZ

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1% takes 40% of the wealth of entire nations.

The inequality gap between poor and rich class in America is as bad as some of the 3rd world countries in Africa.

I want to leave y'all with this quote by the comedian named George Carlin 

"The owners of this country know the truth: It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

Kayv: pull bitches, not triggers. throw parties, not fists. futurebass : my mom said life is like a box of kimchi. chopzz.tumblr.com

March 7, 2013 @ 06:34 AM
rezmo.

Post: 224

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Location: California.

Lol idgaf.

Another bottle in the brain.

March 7, 2013 @ 06:36 AM
me>u

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Socialism. It's the only way.

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March 7, 2013 @ 06:52 AM
Hashy

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Everyone in America has an opportunity to be rich honestly.  American Dream is basically just equal opportunity by another name
March 7, 2013 @ 06:57 AM
me>u

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Everyone in America has an opportunity to be rich honestly.  American Dream is basically just equal opportunity by another name

Tell that to late 1800 to 1920s America.

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March 7, 2013 @ 07:02 AM
tmwtg

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Socialism. It's the only way.
Not sure if trolling..
March 7, 2013 @ 07:08 AM
me>u

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Socialism. It's the only way.
Not sure if trolling..

It's been done on a state level before and worked perfectly fine. Why not try on a national level?

But then again, things have changed so I guess it won't be direct socialism..

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March 7, 2013 @ 07:21 AM
dinkleberg

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only way to restore america is anarchy
March 7, 2013 @ 08:37 AM
CHOPZZ

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Socialism. It's the only way.
Not sure if trolling..
it seems like all of the Scandinavian countries are doing real great with this idea.

Kayv: pull bitches, not triggers. throw parties, not fists. futurebass : my mom said life is like a box of kimchi. chopzz.tumblr.com

March 7, 2013 @ 08:59 AM
Pantic

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I dont see what would give anyone a bigger opportunity to get Rich in the US, than i have here in socialist Scandinavia 
March 7, 2013 @ 06:27 PM
Black Donald Trump

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Socialism. It's the only way.
Not sure if trolling..
it seems like all of the Scandinavian countries are doing real great with this idea.
thats because they're small countries making money off the wealth of capitalist countries. 
March 7, 2013 @ 06:28 PM
Black Donald Trump

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it depends on what is meant by socialism i guess, there seem to be a lot of interpretations of that word
March 7, 2013 @ 06:30 PM
Sub Prime

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chopzz mad that he still isn't rich after 9 years of community college
March 7, 2013 @ 07:10 PM
Pantic

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Location: The basement

the only advantage to capitalism is once you make it you really make it. 
March 7, 2013 @ 07:25 PM
rabbitman

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the only advantage to capitalism is once you make it you really make it. 
or lose it all when your stocks/investments crash
Socialism. It's the only way.
Not sure if trolling..
it seems like all of the Scandinavian countries are doing real great with this idea.
this basically. its just market regulation and the public sector making sure theres adequate education, infrastructure, health services, etc.
it depends on what is meant by socialism i guess, there seem to be a lot of interpretations of that word
yeah a lot of people have no idea what it really means. it can be taken to mean anything from USSR Stalinism to modern day France/Denmark/Sweden/etc.

be careful what you pretend to be

March 7, 2013 @ 09:38 PM
loofy

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Location: Chicago

It's called individualism. Being self-reliant should be the goal for all people. NOT being supported by the government. Yes, safety nets are necessary, but anything more can be deadly to society and lead to people not wanting to find jobs..I support helping the poor but in a capitalist society there will always be winners and losers.
March 7, 2013 @ 09:43 PM
thesupergoodlife

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If you guys think that expanding the State is gonna solve any of your problems come to the UK. We've had free health care for 60 odd years and yet we've got tens of thousands of people dying in hosptials, shit ain't good. 
March 7, 2013 @ 10:14 PM
rabbitman

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If you guys think that expanding the State is gonna solve any of your problems come to the UK. We've had free health care for 60 odd years and yet we've got tens of thousands of people dying in hosptials, shit ain't good. 
there isn't necessarily a correlation between people dying in hospitals and free healthcare. did that percentage of people dying in hospitals occur all 60 years? what percentage of people who died in those hospitals used public healthcare vs private? compare those percentages with those of other countries?
France, Italy, Spain, and Austria all rank within the top 10 healthcare systems of the world and they all have public healthcare options. the US is the only first world country without universal coverage. your claim is a fallacy

be careful what you pretend to be

March 7, 2013 @ 10:34 PM
tmwtg

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It's called individualism. Being self-reliant should be the goal for all people. NOT being supported by the government. Yes, safety nets are necessary, but anything more can be deadly to society and lead to people not wanting to find jobs..I support helping the poor but in a capitalist society there will always be winners and losers.
Nah, it's called 'make your own money and ball out without the help of the BS nanny state that the US has become.'

What ever happened to hard work? Entitlement programs are killing us. The more you depend on the government, the more you give them control.
March 7, 2013 @ 10:45 PM
W33ZY

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You know what, my dad sent me an email the other day about swedish doctors discovering the gene mutation that causes people to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes ( which I have) and it said they were in clinical trials and all that, and i thought, that doesn't matter because all of the pharmaceutical companies are making billions off of supplies, insulin pumps, etc. I'm currently about to receive an insulin pump and they retail at around $6,000 for something as big as a small cell phone. If you think about how much money theyre making off of those pumps alone, you know they won't be handing out or funding actual research that will bring a cure.. Same goes for cancer and other diseases.. it's pathetic and ridiculous.

Edit: not exactly related but just a point.
March 7, 2013 @ 10:51 PM
Wavey_LenZ

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Location: UK

It's called individualism. Being self-reliant should be the goal for all people. NOT being supported by the government. Yes, safety nets are necessary, but anything more can be deadly to society and lead to people not wanting to find jobs..I support helping the poor but in a capitalist society there will always be winners and losers.
Nah, it's called 'make your own money and ball out without the help of the BS nanny state that the US has become.'

What ever happened to hard work? Entitlement programs are killing us. The more you depend on the government, the more you give them control.
..... has never been on welfare
March 7, 2013 @ 11:14 PM
tmwtg

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^ People who are on welfare who really need government help = that's absolutely fine.

But there are a lot of people out there committing welfare fraud. Don't deny it.
March 8, 2013 @ 12:24 AM
Wavey_LenZ

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Join Date: Mar 2011

Location: UK

^ People who are on welfare who really need government help = that's absolutely fine.

But there are a lot of people out there committing welfare fraud. Don't deny it.
Thats this whole arguement of the "deserving and undeserving" poor that has been used as a scapegoat by the media (so they can sell more papers etc) and politicians (to divide and rule) since victorian times.

Here in England the blame is put on the unemployed theres even a TV show called saints AND scroungers that is dedicated to outing the naughty ones and helping the good ones and not a day goes by without a tabloid screaching unemployed this or immigrant that. But in reality only 3% of the welfare budget went on benefits to unemployed people and only 0.7% of the welfare budget is claimed fraudulently. 

While these figures might be higher in the US down to the inequality it is only a tiny minority who take advantage of these systems, it wasn't as if they were rich in the first place and what they do receive pales in significance to what the rich evade in taxes - higher in the US like above.
March 8, 2013 @ 12:26 AM
Ultimate Man Ray

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Equal wealth, you're asking for communism.

:)

March 8, 2013 @ 01:11 AM
W33ZY

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another thing is that it takes years to achieve residency in europe and other places and in america, you can live here illegaly and get free college. yayyy
March 8, 2013 @ 01:21 AM
loofy

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Location: Chicago

It's called individualism. Being self-reliant should be the goal for all people. NOT being supported by the government. Yes, safety nets are necessary, but anything more can be deadly to society and lead to people not wanting to find jobs..I support helping the poor but in a capitalist society there will always be winners and losers.
Nah, it's called 'make your own money and ball out without the help of the BS nanny state that the US has become.'

What ever happened to hard work? Entitlement programs are killing us. The more you depend on the government, the more you give them control.
yeah that's what I'm saying

If you guys think that expanding the State is gonna solve any of your problems come to the UK. We've had free health care for 60 odd years and yet we've got tens of thousands of people dying in hosptials, shit ain't good. 
there isn't necessarily a correlation between people dying in hospitals and free healthcare. did that percentage of people dying in hospitals occur all 60 years? what percentage of people who died in those hospitals used public healthcare vs private? compare those percentages with those of other countries?
France, Italy, Spain, and Austria all rank within the top 10 healthcare systems of the world and they all have public healthcare options. the US is the only first world country without universal coverage. your claim is a fallacy
That doesn't mean we should follow. "Everyone else is doin it so it must be good right?" Your claim is more of a fallacy.
March 8, 2013 @ 01:33 AM
me>u

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I dont understand the big fear of Socialism. If you know your history, you would know it has worked plenty of times before.

Shit, FDR New Deal programs were all Socialistic. Even if the Supreme Court ruled it down fdr still cheated the court and got the new deal to work. fdr saved capitalism if anything (not including ww2)

What im saying is, the Government needs to have stricter regulations on business. Not only that, the Gov. needs to take control of workers wages rather than the business itself.

I can go on and on but im open to discussion.

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March 8, 2013 @ 01:47 AM
AGUA

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Location: Boston, MA

It's the fuck gooks in this country taking all the jobs with computers. They've somehow slipped into the cracks of our society. The whole problem is the way they smell and what they look like. 
March 8, 2013 @ 02:13 AM
Captain Al

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Join Date: Feb 2013

I dont understand the big fear of Socialism. If you know your history, you would know it has worked plenty of times before.

Shit, FDR New Deal programs were all Socialistic. Even if the Supreme Court ruled it down fdr still cheated the court and got the new deal to work. fdr saved capitalism if anything (not including ww2)

What im saying is, the Government needs to have stricter regulations on business. Not only that, the Gov. needs to take control of workers wages rather than the business itself.

I can go on and on but im open to discussion.
Don't you think capitalism just in a whole betters society? Yes, it's not much of a social positive as compared to socialism.
Capitalism brings competition (regardless of it being fair or not), and competition will surely allow progress for technology, health, the economy, etc.

I [somewhat] agree with you on the subject of the Gov. [they should be] taking stricter actions towards businesses.

One of the big flaws in capitalism is the poor stay poor, and the rich get richer.
If you wanted to start a computer business, could you compete with the big names like Apple, Microsoft, Dell, HP, etc? 

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March 8, 2013 @ 02:49 AM
me>u

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I dont understand the big fear of Socialism. If you know your history, you would know it has worked plenty of times before.

Shit, FDR New Deal programs were all Socialistic. Even if the Supreme Court ruled it down fdr still cheated the court and got the new deal to work. fdr saved capitalism if anything (not including ww2)

What im saying is, the Government needs to have stricter regulations on business. Not only that, the Gov. needs to take control of workers wages rather than the business itself.

I can go on and on but im open to discussion.
Don't you think capitalism just in a whole betters society? Yes, it's not much of a social positive as compared to socialism.
Capitalism brings competition (regardless of it being fair or not), and competition will surely allow progress for technology, health, the economy, etc.

I [somewhat] agree with you on the subject of the Gov. [they should be] taking stricter actions towards businesses.

One of the big flaws in capitalism is the poor stay poor, and the rich get richer.
If you wanted to start a computer business, could you compete with the big names like Apple, Microsoft, Dell, HP, etc? 

Capitalism brings competition until a Monopoly forms (ex. Microsoft). Then what does the Government do? They use socialism to break the monopoly. In my view, socialism can save capitalism but capitalism cant save anything.

Just look at 1930s Germany. 

Now I def. agree with you that capitalism brings innovation and progresses a nation. Maybe one day we'll be able to find a way to still bring innovation into a socialistic society? Something in between.....

But social reforms isn't the only thing. Capitalism is corrupted. Just look at all our senators and congressmen that have been bought off by wealthy business men. That wouldnt happen if the Government controlled the business. That way, no congressmen or senator can be "bought" off.

The american dream is called a "dream" for a reason.
Its because the moment you wake up, your blood, sweat and tears are used to make another man rich.
Wealthy business men feed off of another man's work.

Socialism can work. But NOT DIRECT Socialism. Just like America isn't a Direct Capitalism. 

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