June 20, 2012 @ 05:48 PM
Rizal

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In manga it ain't "truth" until it's showed in details. We can just speculate or theorized by connecting pieces. But I see your point. When I said "deep" what I meant is that itachi wasnt just a cold hearted anbu (how people thought of him in most part of the story) with no feelings as he had a hard time emotionally killing his own people. Even spoke to his parents about Sasuke before dying. Dude was given lil choice. We all know if Sasuke is upset/emo he goes bananas. Kabuto ain't shit after what itachi did to him. If anything the nigga is prolly outta focus right now after getting schooled by a dead guy. A dead guy he brought back and the same guy that trolled his idol Oro. He'd be reckless cuz of that and it'll be the death of him.

Edit: another reason why kabuto going to get it is Sasuke might awaken some next MS power up after all this emotional distress.
June 20, 2012 @ 07:52 PM
legendlikenas

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I think Tobi is Setsuna Uchiha. He lived early enough to know Madara and Hashirama, has the same spiky looking hair, we know very little about him, and he wanted supremacy for the Uchiha and rebelled against the Konoha Military Force as a political trap. Also his name can mean instant/moment or oppress, aka the two things most unique about Tobi. His space/time abilities to move in an instant and his desire to oppress the world.
June 20, 2012 @ 08:04 PM
Rizal

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^ some theory but you cant base his jutsu for who he is because he has a collection of Sharingan. His jutsu/eyes can be from anybody from the uchiha clan.
June 20, 2012 @ 08:09 PM
legendlikenas

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Yeah but then why restrict Tobi to being an Uchiha at all?
June 20, 2012 @ 08:19 PM
Striker

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hold up what chapter are all of you on? im at 410, tobi revealed his identity to sasuke already

unless he isnt who he says he is
June 20, 2012 @ 08:22 PM
dizii

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At this point, Tobi can be any 'major' Uchiha -- Setsuna, Kagami, Izuna, etc. Two names we can automatically disregard, though, is Obito (I don't know why people are stupid enough to even theorize this) and Shisui (He has no reason to be this Tobi guy).

Back onto this week's read, that's some sad shit b. Like Rizal said, we've known about Itachi's true intentions awhile back, but it's basically all confirmed now that it's been said by Itachi himself. I don't know bout yall, but those two elderly bitches who council with the Hokage and Danzou piss the shit outta me. Their decisions are so rash and inconsiderate. No wonder why Konoha has problems. Anyways, Itachi be dat nigga f'real. Sasuke has to have some sorta changed mindset after that confirmation.
June 20, 2012 @ 08:37 PM
legendlikenas

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I don't know about 'any major' Uchiha, because Tobi has shown himself to be involved in several important events of the past and claims to know many things about the past, so in my opinion he should be a contemporary of at least the Second Hokage. Also we know he isn't Madara but there is not really a reason why he can't be Obito.
June 20, 2012 @ 09:25 PM
Pantic

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He won't be obito simply because that is just too damn obvious, dude has one eye in his mask like obito had 1 eye in the end, and his name made me think of obito the very first time we heard it. I just don't think he would make it that obvious, prolly wanted people to think it was him tho.
June 20, 2012 @ 09:34 PM
iggy-koopa

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if kabuto escapes and he finally becomes 'himself', and sauske doesn't kill him, what kinda dude do you think hell be
June 21, 2012 @ 05:29 AM
fandango

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i cant wait till orochimaru comes back. his dna is still kabuto. and now that kabuto is under that izanami thing it shouldnt be too hard for oro dna to take over kabuto's body

say my name. fannnn...dannnnnn.....gooooo

June 21, 2012 @ 06:27 AM
chex

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how far is the manga from the anime?
June 21, 2012 @ 06:31 AM
dmwalking

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Not sure why all this time I thought this was an ether thread for a member named Tobi. Im pretty disappointed.

guy on some broke bus. Love, Sosa. "Don't feed the trolls" initiative coming soon. We can rebuild.

June 21, 2012 @ 06:57 AM
Rizal

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how far is the manga from the anime?


Dunno 200 chapters deep
June 21, 2012 @ 07:13 AM
berzerk

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how far is the manga from the anime?

the manga is about 60 chapters ahead
June 21, 2012 @ 06:22 PM
chex

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im guessing thats 60 episodes? man sad i really dont wanna read the manga but im anxious to see whats going on
June 21, 2012 @ 06:45 PM
Izanagi

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why don't you wanna read the manga? it's a lot faster to read a chapter than to whatch a episode of 20 minutes
June 21, 2012 @ 08:47 PM
AUSCHMIZ

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so since Kabuto's jutsu got released.....couldnt Tobi just start that shit up again since he learned how?
June 21, 2012 @ 08:57 PM
Rizal

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so since Kabuto's jutsu got released.....couldnt Tobi just start that shit up again since he learned how?


You gotta get all the requirement to perform this shit. Right now he's busy getting his ass kicked
June 21, 2012 @ 09:16 PM
AUSCHMIZ

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...in theory. like 2 things happened in the past 2 months
June 21, 2012 @ 09:32 PM
dizii

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im guessing thats 60 episodes? man sad i really dont wanna read the manga but im anxious to see whats going on


Naw b I think an episode is about 2-3 manga chapters.
June 21, 2012 @ 09:36 PM
AUSCHMIZ

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nah....its just one bruh.
June 23, 2012 @ 05:44 PM
Izuna

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hold up what chapter are all of you on? im at 410, tobi revealed his identity to sasuke already

unless he isnt who he says he is

you're far behind. We are on 590.

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I think Tobi is Setsuna Uchiha. He lived early enough to know Madara and Hashirama, has the same spiky looking hair, we know very little about him, and he wanted supremacy for the Uchiha and rebelled against the Konoha Military Force as a political trap. Also his name can mean instant/moment or oppress, aka the two things most unique about Tobi. His space/time abilities to move in an instant and his desire to oppress the world.

This seems a lot more believable.


Setsuna was 26 when he died according to the Wiki/Databook and lived under the 2nd Hokage's rule so if he faked his death I'd imagine him to be pretty old and wrinkly like we keep seeing glimpse of under Tobi's mask.

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June 23, 2012 @ 06:30 PM
Pantic

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Oh shit good detective work, those two look completely identical. It's him fo sho.
June 23, 2012 @ 06:35 PM
stalker46ss

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hold up what chapter are all of you on? im at 410, tobi revealed his identity to sasuke already

unless he isnt who he says he is

you're far behind. We are on 590.

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wait so when did that ^ character first made an appearance. So your saying no1 paid attention to that guy guy ^ until now?? Can som1 point out specifically when he this guy was first mentioned or shown in any of the manga cos i only see him here...
I think Tobi is Setsuna Uchiha. He lived early enough to know Madara and Hashirama, has the same spiky looking hair, we know very little about him, and he wanted supremacy for the Uchiha and rebelled against the Konoha Military Force as a political trap. Also his name can mean instant/moment or oppress, aka the two things most unique about Tobi. His space/time abilities to move in an instant and his desire to oppress the world.

This seems a lot more believable.


Setsuna was 26 when he died according to the Wiki/Databook and lived under the 2nd Hokage's rule so if he faked his death I'd imagine him to be pretty old and wrinkly like we keep seeing glimpse of under Tobi's mask.
June 23, 2012 @ 06:38 PM
stalker46ss

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hold up what chapter are all of you on? im at 410, tobi revealed his identity to sasuke already

unless he isnt who he says he is

you're far behind. We are on 590.

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(tobiisaliar)

wait so when did that ^ character first made an appearance. So your saying no1 paid attention to that guy guy ^ until now?? Can som1 point out specifically when he this guy was first mentioned or shown in any of the manga cos i only see him here...
I think Tobi is Setsuna Uchiha. He lived early enough to know Madara and Hashirama, has the same spiky looking hair, we know very little about him, and he wanted supremacy for the Uchiha and rebelled against the Konoha Military Force as a political trap. Also his name can mean instant/moment or oppress, aka the two things most unique about Tobi. His space/time abilities to move in an instant and his desire to oppress the world.

This seems a lot more believable.


Setsuna was 26 when he died according to the Wiki/Databook and lived under the 2nd Hokage's rule so if he faked his death I'd imagine him to be pretty old and wrinkly like we keep seeing glimpse of under Tobi's mask.


Wait yo im a little confused did this guy just popped out of nowhere recently?? Was he introduced recently or was he shown like way back then and no1 paid attention to. Im mad confused now. How come we didn't catch it??Som1 point out to me what manga he was mentioned in??
June 23, 2012 @ 06:44 PM
stalker46ss

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Also tobi's chakra is comparable to madara. If this was the case, then how come this setsuna dude wasn't as famous/notorious when the manga did like flashbacks and shit
June 23, 2012 @ 06:48 PM
stalker46ss

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Ronnel i know u behind that mask b
June 23, 2012 @ 07:58 PM
Izuna

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Setsuna was in one of the chapters and episodes but was just a random Uchiha plotting. I never noticed him until today checking this thread. But odly enough, Kishimoto included him in one of the Official Databooks with a name and age. Plus he kinda sticks out in his appearance.

He probably concealed it maybe nobody knew him that well. They always seem to pull up random characters and secret Jutus from the past and talk about how powerful they were but earlier in the series you never knew they existed(example: some of the people revived by Kabuto's Edo Tensei)

Here is him in front of Madaras tomb apparently




also, Take note that Kishimoto likes to name the characters after their abilities or appearance like how the name Naruto Uzumaki is related to wind, spirals, whirlpools and stuff.

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June 26, 2012 @ 04:32 AM
AUSCHMIZ

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Tarlock's brother lol
June 26, 2012 @ 07:26 AM
zzzboy

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does tobi have a lot of chakra? i'm not really sure now that i think about it. does have have some first hokage dna, or is that the real madara?

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