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September 19, 2011 @ 08:22 PM
Eaton

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thoughts on vegan privilege
The more I think about the reasons people have for not being vegan, the more upset I get. I understand that some people cannot be vegan (though it isn’t even close to the numbers that defensive omnivores would have you believe) and I’ve gotten so tired of this discussion that the second anyone cries privilege, I just give them the benefit of the doubt. What really annoys me these days is that even if these people are actually incapable of being vegan, no one seems to want to discuss why, of all the minorities (and I use that term only in terms of representation) on which the burden could be placed, non-human animals are the ones who take the slack. What you’re saying is that some privilege is acceptable and some (particularly those that directly affect you) are not. It’s like, “Sorry, cow. Everyone’s got problems. I need to eat you and your family because that’s the way it is.” Human privilege is, in some ways, worse than any other kind of privilege. Mainly because humans seem to be the only ones who understand privilege and that in itself leads to the idea that we alone deserve ethical consideration. (So check your privilege before you assume I’m not checking mine.)

While that might make sense to some people, what I don’t understand is even if that is “the way it is”, why the fuck isn’t anyone doing anything about it? I see a lot of people concerned with privilege, hacking away at branches but never bothering to find the roots and it exposes them as frauds. Okay, you can’t be vegan because you’re below the poverty line and all you can afford is federally subsidized meat from fast food chains. Given the countless studies about health issues of non-vegan diets and given the fact that you “would totally go vegan if you could because [you] love the animals”, why the FUCK aren’t you doing anything about it? How many letters have you written to your representative? How many times have you actively participated in demonstrations against animal suffering? Why is it that despite being so concerned, just simply unable to help, most people lamenting about their inability to make the choice to go vegan haven’t done a single thing to make it better?

What people don’t seem to understand is that not supporting veganism where you can (through public voice and those times where you CAN make vegan choices) is ensuring that nothing changes. Logically, raising food to feed to food makes no sense and is a massive waste of resources and it should be no surprise that if federal subsidies were going to raising crops to eat instead of raising crops to feed to animals to eat, food would be a fraction of what it costs now. How about 5 cent veggie burgers? Wouldn’t that be a fuck ton better for the single mothers of three struggling to keep their families fed that everyone is so intent on fighting for? If you gave a fuck about anyone who can’t afford to feed their families, you should be advocating veganism at the top of your fucking lungs, not complaining that people are advocating veganism because of some idiotic notion that they don’t understand the concept of privilege.

As far as inability to go vegan because of health reasons, I am still unconvinced. Show me one (just one) case where a patient absolutely needed something only found in animals or they wouldn’t be able to function. Show me one. For those saying, “Yeah, I’d go vegan except I need so much more X to get as much Y as I get from Z”, see the previous paragraph. When the subsidies go to growing crops instead of wasting billions for hamburgers, you’ll get much more iron for much less money from dark, leafy greens and supplements than you’ll ever get from meat. Are you in a food desert? Grow your own food if you can. Don’t want to go to the grocery store twice a week? Go once a week and buy twice as much. Too expensive? START ADVOCATING VEGANISM, DUMB SHIT. Tell your government that you’re educated and you know what’s up and demand that they start selling you food that’s better for you and stop keeping people hungry with asinine systems of waste.

Yeah, there are a lot of legitimate problems that prevent some people from going vegan and they aren’t going to be solved until people stop making excuses and start putting some effort into making changes. Go vegan. If you can’t, start yelling and don’t stop until you can.

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:24 PM
Constellations

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Gayyyyyyy

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:25 PM

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it's true doe.

dem dark leafy greens.cool
September 19, 2011 @ 08:27 PM
Jens Voigt

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Meat tastes so good doe. and we get energy from that shit.

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:30 PM
k-nock k-nock

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meat is so good doe. i'll toss some salads once in a while.
September 19, 2011 @ 08:30 PM
murklur

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someone saw food inc today
September 19, 2011 @ 08:35 PM
MrImFukNSleepN

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I’ve gotten so tired of this discussion


Then stfu and go about your day.
September 19, 2011 @ 08:35 PM
HipHopPunk

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eat a balanced diet, food comes in many forms to feed the world. Veggies should be eaten bc it is the most abundant, however if meat shouldnt be eaten why is it that so many animals provide us with so much meat from their body?
September 19, 2011 @ 08:36 PM
Constellations

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animals eat other animals, and we're animals so why cant we eat animals?

you may say that that the "human privelege" thing is a narcissistic point of view have (wasnt sure how to phrase that)

but that means the opposite is also kinda true. like if you believe that humans arent any better than animals and we shouldnt eat non-human animals then isnt a little hypocritical to think that we're above regular animal instincts?

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:39 PM
KevBd

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lmaoo.

for real though. i eat meat. i eat meat because i love to eat meat. i eat meat because it helps me to achieve the goals and results i want with my training. if i want to be bigger, faster, and stronger, i have to eat meat.

for ... forever humans have eaten meat. i'm sure there was some ancient greek society that lived solely off olives and the roots of various plants, and those people lived to be the healthiest people of all time. that's excellent. or whatever other confined, anecdotal evidence and argument you have against meat eating.

fact: complete proteins are necessary for human life. fact: they're extremely rare among non-animal sources. fact: living off quinoa would be really shitty.

and don't even try to make the argument about wasted resources, because it's just stupid. resources and environmentalism can be made to twist any point, they just shouldn't be allowed when they're not the topic of discussion.

end rant.

two of em x hs shit

September 19, 2011 @ 08:43 PM
Eaton

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lmao guys i didnt actually write that.

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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September 19, 2011 @ 08:46 PM
KevBd

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lmao guys i didnt actually write that.


wait, do you eat meat?

two of em x hs shit

September 19, 2011 @ 08:47 PM
Eaton

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wait, do you eat meat?


im eating a chicken chipotle hot pocket right now

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:48 PM
KevBd

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im eating a chicken chipotle hot pocket right now



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September 19, 2011 @ 08:48 PM
jafeel

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someone saw food inc today

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September 19, 2011 @ 08:59 PM
Eperviers

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My diet personally is a Nation of Islam one. Close to a rasta one, but you can eat kosher meat.
September 19, 2011 @ 09:04 PM
Ape

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No homo I like some big juicy meats

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September 19, 2011 @ 09:05 PM
Super Nintendo Chalmers

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tl;dr


Make vegetables taste like steak and we're good. otherwise, I love animals. they're delicious.
September 19, 2011 @ 09:18 PM
aTTag.

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aYo,

Because of this post OP, I will be eating nothing but meat and will breed 15-20 carnivores in the next 5 years. Therefore, you should be aware that you are significantly contributing to the end of the world.

May God bless your burdened soul.

Remain untrill.

Edit: Just saw you didn't write it. You are forgiven.

Remain trill.
September 20, 2011 @ 02:56 AM
adoboFosho

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No homo I like some big juicy meats


www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFJOHs7KN8

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September 20, 2011 @ 04:00 AM
Eaton

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http://tommyxvx.tumblr.com/

this is the guy i stole it from, i suggest you read through some of his more recent posts if you want to laugh at a pretentious douche bag

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September 20, 2011 @ 05:15 AM
adoboFosho

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http://tommyxvx.tumblr.com/

this is the guy i stole it from, i suggest you read through some of his more recent posts if you want to laugh at a pretentious douche bag


its like simping for meat razz

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