Do you think Prop. 19 will pass? (Marijuana)

^stfu

www.latimes.com/news/local/la-mew-prop19-poll-20101023,0,2940971.story

yesssss

Nice

If you're going to argue a point, try to do it without name calling and cursing every 3rd word. It cheapens your points if you make valid ones, and makes you look ignorant.

First, I don't smoke. Never have, never will. I always vote by mail, so I've already voted and I voted yes on Prop 19. Here's why:

The vast majority of marijuana users are by and large law abiding citizens (obviously, they don't abide by the laws on use of marijuana). Sure, there are people that use marijuana that commit crimes, but for the most part, marijuana users aren't violent people. By continuing to arrest, prosecute and jail users of marijuana for having small amounts of marijuana in their possession is a gross misuse of police resources, judicial resources, and prison resources. California's prison system is overcrowded and the state is wasting money prosecuting non violent users of marijuana. Furthermore, Governor Schwarzenegger signed a bill earlier this month reducing the offense for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana to $100 and no jail time (latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/schwarzenegger-signs-bill-reducing-offense-for-marijuana-possession.html). Spending resources and manpower on recreational use of marijuana is waste of money, time and energy. Imagine the amount of money saved from not having to house recreational users in our prisons for 2-3 years. That's plain and simple dollars and cents.

Additionally, it's not the government's job to protect me from myself. As sovereign, thinking adults, I am more than capable of choosing what I want to put in my body and what I don't want to put in my body. The government's job is to protect me from you and you from me. If I wanna drink 4 gallons of vodka, I can. Granted, I WILL end up in the emergency room, but that doesn't give the government the right to tell me I can't drink 4 gallons of vodka. The same should apply for marijuana.

Furthermore, just because I can grow it, doesn't mean I necessarily will, and who cares, If I'm using it for personal use anyway? It's legal for me to grow vegetables and consume them, but I don't have a garden in spite of my large backyard. In fact, the vast majority of people don't grow their own produce, even though they could and they could save money and it would be far healthier than buying the pesticide riddled produce from their local grocery store. The same would apply to the vast majority of marijuana users. Just because you can grow your own doesn't necessarily mean you would. I imagine most people would just rather save their time and head to the nearest dispensary. I probably would.

Lastly, saying "People already use it, so why make it legal?" and "Just get a medical marijuana card if you want to smoke marijuana" are ridiculous arguments. A friend of mine had a medical marijuana card and nearly went to prison because of it. Turns out, the "physician" he got the card from was a crooked doctor and nearly got locked up for having documents that weren't legal. And the fact that people are already using it responsibly would be a reason to LEGALIZE it not one for making it illegal. If it's already been demonstrated that people can use marijuana responsibly and still remain productive (mostly), law abiding citizens, why should it NOT be legal?

FAGGOT MOTHERFUCKER.

that's what your friend gets for cheaping out on a physician. that physician was most likely advertising recommendations for some price like $35. the only LEGIT medical marijuana card recognized by law enforcement costs $150 from your county's health department.


honestly, what resources are being spent on recreational marijuana usage? everyone says we're wasting time and energy.. the police don't spend time trying to spy on recreational users...


and there are NO recreational users doing prison time.. you have to be caught with a good amount(around a quarter pound) or with distribution charges.

Do you know how easy it is for them to add "With intent to distribute" to drug possesion charges? If you are near a school when caught, "INTENT TO DISTRIBUTE", In public transportation, "INTENT TO DISTRIBUTE". Furthermore, my friend paid 160 to this doctor and 75 bucks to renew. He had been going to him for a while. I wouldn't call that cheaping out.

Some Reading Material.
HS 11006.5: Concentrated cannabis means the separated resin, whether crude or purified, obtained from marijuana.
SECTION 11357-11362.9

Pertaining to marijuana

HS 11357. (a) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses any concentrated cannabis shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not more than one year or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars ($500), or by both such fine and imprisonment, or shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison.

even if you get hit with a intent to distribute, realistically you're only getting probation and community service.

you should know this especially in LA.. 1 year sentence = 3-4 months of actual time served in la county.



you guys should look into who wrote prop 19... richard lee. if this passes he's going to be getting massive amounts of money..

He's already getting massive amounts of money, as he is a business man. Everyone has a reason for wanting this proposition to get passed, whether it be personal gain or something more altruistic. You still haven't given a sound reason against it. Furthermore, 3-4 months of jail time is still too long for recreational use of marijuana. Its a complete waste of police time to go after people like that. Police should spend their time preventing real crime.

just some shit to think about. first 3 points are bs.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/19-reasons-for-california-to-vote-yes-on-prop-19