things only get hyped if ppl like them. think about that for a sec. the limited factor only plays a role in the price of the item. the hype would be there even if they weren't limited. think about the tiffany release. now picture if the black pack was limited to 300 and only released in guatemala.
what if paris' were a worldwide release and as easy to get as a pair of hunters? ppl would STILL fiend over them because they think they look hot.
hype does not create itself. its fine if you don't like a shoe, but even you should be able to see what i'm saying. if anything hype would scare away a lot of ppl into buying a shoe because of the price. bape is hyped, right? especially when it first hit stateside. how many ppl have you actually seen in real life with a shark hoodie or some legit bapes and how many ppl online were just talking about it? how many ppl talk about the city series and how many ppl actually own a pair or more out of that pack?
my point is things are hyped because ppl like them, but just because something is hyped doesn't mean that a lot of ppl actually go out and buy them. more hype = a greater price to pay (more than likely). a general release can be lliked a lot, and as a result, hyped and go for more than retail.
Hype is the only reason people who can't even afford Bape and other shoes like it want them.see, you're assuming things that you don't know. hype is the reason that a lot of ppl want bape, but that doesn't mean that everyone wants bape because of hype. the reason a lot of ppl even starting liking bape is because it looks good to them. its different. me personally, i'd never even heard of a full zip hoodie, a hoodie with a print on the hood or extra fabric on the hood, bright, patent leather sneakers, etc. before 2003ish. when i saw it, i instantly fell in love.
Come on Bape is ugly but that don't stop people from wanting them. And hype is the only reason sneakers get bootlegged. You can sell almost anything if Hype surrounds a certain product. Take Vans. Vans is soooo hyped right now when before most people who bought vans either just like them, skate, or wore them when they were teenagers and Vans are smoking right now. You can thank the Pak for that.well, like any brand, you have to choose what you like and what you dont like. not everything is going to be pleasing to you.
see, you're assuming things that you don't know. hype is the reason that a lot of ppl want bape, but that doesn't mean that everyone wants bape because of hype. the reason a lot of ppl even starting liking bape is because it looks good to them. its different. me personally, i'd never even heard of a full zip hoodie, a hoodie with a print on the hood or extra fabric on the hood, bright, patent leather sneakers, etc. before 2003ish. when i saw it, i instantly fell in love.
again, hype does not create itself. hype the result of a lot of ppl liking the same thing. when a lot of ppl like the same thing, THAT is when hype is created and THAT is when the prices increase. any reason you're paying 1000+ for an OG camo shark hoodie? it retailed for about 250, iirc. hype. why is it hyped? because that shit is different, its attractive to a lot of ppl, etc.
are there some ppl out there that only want it because its now become a status symbol? yes. but there are other ppl out there that don't care about any of that and just want stuff like that because they like it. i'm one of them. i didn't care if sbtg's were 99 dollars or 599 i was still copping because i liked them. i didn't care if nobody else felt them, i was still going to cop.
put it this way, a lot of ppl copped send helps. those are pretty ugly to me, but a lot of ppl started to like them and it got small hype because of that. ppl copped. ppl didn't cop off of hype, they copped because they liked the shoe. the ppl that liked the shoe and talked about it constantly on message boards created the hype. the hype wasn't just there.
well, like any brand, you have to choose what you like and what you dont like. not everything is going to be pleasing to you.
the last part of your post is true, but who creates the hype? ppl who like the product. hype doesn't just appear out of thin air. bootleggers aren't going to waste their time on something they don't think will sell.
its like this:
1. shoe is announced, pics are shown.
2. ppl give their opinions on it. lets say, for the sake of this argument, that ppl like the shoe.
3. random threads are created on the shoe with ppl asking about a release date because they want to get the shoe (because they like it)
4. an official thread is made and the thread is 115 pages on ppl talking about the shoe.
5. hype is created.
6. the shoe drops for twice the amount of retail because so many ppl like the shoe and so many ppl have been calling their skateshops, etc. and the shops think they can get away with overcharging because of the interest in the shoe.
7. someone complains about how said shoe is garbage and about stupid hypebeasts.
thats just how things work. if you don't like a shoe, fine, but don't hate on others that do. even the brian andersons had a little hype, and thats only because a little bit of ppl liked them.
Yes and part of the hype surrounding this SBTG shoe was "Asia Exclusive". That was the bottom line and the main selling point when these shoes were first introduced and you can't tell me it didn't work...that wasn't the main selling point. the main selling point of the shoe was that SBTG was working on it. it was only asia exclusive because he's from asia and wanted something for asians.
Most shoes that get posted here make a point to say that the shoe is limited, it's part of a certain pack, a certain designer made it, Brazil exclusive haha. It's all marketing to get people to buy. Of course not everyone is going to buy or even like the shoe, but any selling point like "exclusive" will get people to like the shoe more and ultimately buy. Classic.
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that wasn't the main selling point. the main selling point of the shoe was that SBTG was working on it. it was only asia exclusive because he's from asia and wanted something for asians.
ppl outside of asia, like myself, that really wanted the shoe had to work around that.
there's a reason for that though. most shoes that come across this site are shoes that you can't get in stores in the mall. the site posts what it posts to be informative, not to create hype or to make it even more hyped. would you know about half the stuff you know about without the internet and sites like this? probably not. not everyone lives in ny, la, hong kong, london or tokyo, either, so they need to know the low down on the shoe.
i think some of what you're saying is true for some ppl, but not for all, and you need to consider that.
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the brian andersons look like almost no thought was put into the shoe.
First of all most or all shoes posted on this site or sites like it can be purchased in stores so that's wrong.first off, its not wrong. how many ppl here live or have access to soho? socal? hong kong? london? not everyone lives in a major city and has access to sneaker boutiques. not everyone lives in a place with sneakerheads that talk about them and inform other ppl of the latest things and the stories behind them. thats where sites like hypebeast come in.
Yes it's true sites like hypebeast can be informative and usefull tools to sneaker heads but they do serve another purpose. To create a buzz/hype around a certain product. Listen, you think everyone posting on these sites are regular people??...I highly doubt it. I'm sure a lot of people who post here are behind a lot of the products either as a designer or rep of somekind. Again to creat a buzz around a certain product wether it be a general release or an exclusive. All part of marketing. When I worked as a label rep for Elektra and other record companies they would have us do a bunch of bullshit promotions like calling into all our local radio stations twenty times a day to request certain bullshit songs they were pushing so they would ultimately sell millions of copies through a strong radio buzz.i think a lot of ppl here are "regular" ppl. EVERYONE started out somewhere, so regardless if you are "regular" or not, we all started in the same place at one time or another. no one was born with sneaker knowledge. you had to find out somewhere.
Everything you buy is because you found out about it through a friend or online, which was all part of a marketing trickledown.this isn't true for me. you might speak for a lot of ppl, but i'm telling you that its not true for everyone. thats the problem with a lot of businesses today. they think they can speak for everyone when they can't. a lot of ppl are sheep, but a lot are not. i cop what i like period. if i don't like it, i don't give a fuck who does, i'm not fucking with it. if i do like it, i don't care who else likes it. i make my own purchases with my own hard earned money, so other ppl's opinions are pretty much irrelevant.
Had to be.... So you like these dunks that's cool, but don't tell me that your only incentive for going thorugh the trouble to track these dunks down and pay I'm sure was probably a good amount of money just cause you "Like them". There's no way.again, speak for YOURSELF. you dont speak for everyone. stop generalizing. i cop dunks because i like them. NOBODY where i'm at fucks with dunks except me. a lot of ppl from where i'm from (ny) referred to them as white boy skater shoes for awhile before they started to give them a chance. the supreme shit i wear (only a few shirts and hats that i like, not the whole brand) ppl thought was white boy skater shit til i rocked my knowledge reigns fitted, a box tee and supreme black low dunks. i copped what i liked and didn't care because, no, i'm not in middle school. i'm way passed that stage in life where i have to dress to impress other ppl.
I'm sure what motivated you the most to go through all that trouble was because 1, they are designed by SBTG, and 2, they are tough to get due to their Asia exclusive status making them that much sweeter if you can get your hands on a pair. You knew you would be one of the few to have these right? That would be why I would get them if I couldn't get them in the states and I really really wanted something. I'm sure when people ask you where you got those, or what those Dunks are you get all gitty and say well these are Asia exclusives designed by SBTG haha. Don't lie cause I feel the same way when people ask me on the street where I got mty kicks or comment on them. Not my intention when I put them on but you can't help it. I like a lot of rare and dope shit that I missed out on but I ain't trying to pay rape prices. The shit ain't that serious. But that's just me.
i dont feel like reading all your nonsensical crap posts, but stop being so defensive and whiny.
also, just because something is complex doesnt mean its good.
simplicity is really nice alot of times...
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All this time you have been trying to convince me that it's a hot shoe but to me it's highly overrated and mediocre. I gurantee you ain't wearing them with the pirate flap either. If the design were that hot you'd wear the pirate flap haha...I know you are jocking that shoe just because of the factors behind it you may be trying to convince yourself that you're not but you are. Anyway I'm done. It's the Jack Sparrow Dunk and the design is whatever. Out.
actually, i am rocking them with the laceflaps. i'm rocking them right now with red hawaii laces and the laceflaps over the laces.
and i'm NOT trying to convince you to like the shoe. i'm trying to convince you that SOME ppl like it because they think its hot and not everyone buys shoes (or any other item) only because somebody else talked about it (aka hype).
i'm trying to convince you to STOP forcing your beliefs on somebody else. just because you don't like the shoe doesn't mean somebody else has to feel the same way. just because you buy shoes for hype alone doesn't mean that other ppl do and just because you would rock SBTGs a certain way doesn't mean that that person will to. i don't have access to a cam right now, but here's a pic i took a few days ago and posted in the wdywt thread:
note that the flap is on.
Now you're generalizing. I never buy anyhthing off of hype If I did I'd have those Jack Sparrow SBTG dunks
and my idea is, try putting the flap on before you lace them, have it stick to the tongue itself and go underneath the lacehole-holder thingys, and lace over the flap...get what im saying?
im in no way shape or form going to read that.
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Copped both Sbtgs and Brian Andersons....Love them both!!!! There are so many shoes I can say are hot but thats just me...Pusheads however are a pair that are questionable...Box is sick but shoes...Ummmmmmmmmmmmm
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