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July 12, 2013 @ 09:17 PM
ThaGoldenBoy

Post: 1744

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: UK

Ive never really liked Jay to be honest. Always thought Nas was much better
I used to thank Nas killed jay but the blue print is a much better album. productions, concepts, album art, verses...everythang. he shitted on nas and so many others. 

"And all you other cats throwing shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar - fuck y'all niggas
"
Nas is better with lyrics and concepts, I don't comprehend how anyone could disagree on the concepts tip, Nas spit a story backwards, Nas paints more vivid pictures than Jay and proved he still can on his last album. Nas and Jay both done some wack shit and some great shit the past 10 years, Jay is more innovative and comes with more innovative production and art, that shit is true. Nas is capable of staying in the lane he carved but Jay is capable of anything. I'm really sick of Jay and Kanye's faggoty raps about being super rich and godly and shit, its like country club fag meets snobby artsy asshole that nobody cares about, what happend too these mother fuckers putting a little soul into it? What happend to talented artists making art that relates too the every day man whilest inspiring something new and innovative? Rappers these days acting like you can't do both.

 Forever young is also the gayest shit I ever heard... old song at this point but I just have too say that again. Gayer than Macklemores soung about being gay. 
People seem to hate it when I mention DOOM but he hits the nail on the head



Way I see it, whilst Jay and Kanye can produce quality music, they're pop rap musicians. Their music in reality is for the masses, not just rap fans. Because of that they skew the content of their songs to appease the masses.

Also, we all know that when rappers are up and coming they have a tendency to talk about their past which in most cases has been tough. When you've made it though you can't still talk about your slums and poverty, it doesn't make sense.

I think that rap is one of the few genres in 2013 where the image of a rapper is equally as important as his music. Couldn't you argue that image has always been a big part of not only rap but of hip hop? Maybe its just the nature of the game that people are obsessed with rappers images so rappers play up to satisfy fans.
July 12, 2013 @ 09:50 PM
i01111000

Post: 63

Join Date: Sep 2012

All Jay-z raps about is having money and crack. since the beginning that was it. 

his delivery is more witty than other crack rappers but the fact is i can't think of one Jay-z song that doesn't reference his selling crack or him having more money me.

correct me if i'm wrong
July 12, 2013 @ 10:05 PM
Dino Spumoni

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Location: CT

Mid 90s Jay Z is still the best rapper I've ever heard
July 12, 2013 @ 10:58 PM
romel

Post: 663

Join Date: Apr 2013

Location: sf

I wasn't really that much of Jay fan, I only listened to Blueprint 3 which wasnt that bad (I only liked 3 songs off of it) and Magna Carta was alright...
July 13, 2013 @ 12:03 AM
omgs1wtf

Post: 51

Join Date: Mar 2013

MCHG still the best album of the year
nah
what you think was better? Hiphop albums only, obviously
Yeezus
12 Reasons to Die
Born Sinner

hell, Mac's new album is better than this boring piece of shit
July 13, 2013 @ 12:36 AM
edubbb

Post: 62

Join Date: Jun 2013

Nas hit Jay with the original ether

Really that's all you need to know
July 13, 2013 @ 03:43 AM
Alx

Post: 264

Join Date: May 2009

mchg is an album to get turnt to, lyrically nahhh breh 
July 13, 2013 @ 04:22 AM
JEANPAULDAVINCI

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Post: 1088

Join Date: Apr 2012

Location: 916

all of y'all can critcize how weak Jay z is but he's winning

He got beyonce, he makes hella money off other shit, movies, etc= hella money
July 13, 2013 @ 04:53 AM
SoleFresh87

Post: 1353

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: Columbia , South Car...

Im letting MCHG grow on me . 

I believe Born Sinner has Grammy Potential, lotta rotation in my ipod. 

Instagram @g87vrse *ArtMusicFlimLife*

July 13, 2013 @ 04:55 AM
Villain™

Post: 824

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: Gold House

Ive never really liked Jay to be honest. Always thought Nas was much better
I used to thank Nas killed jay but the blue print is a much better album. productions, concepts, album art, verses...everythang. he shitted on nas and so many others. 

"And all you other cats throwing shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar - fuck y'all niggas
"
Coldest line by that nigga for real, isn't that the takeover? I love the black album though.

$mart $tunnaz, $avage Life. SS x SL

July 13, 2013 @ 02:09 PM
nat turner

Post: 1760

Join Date: Jul 2008

for all yall tombot jay rich now so he aint got nothin to rap about. come on, mayne. it doesn't matter what he has or where he is. there are an infinite number of topics people can talk about. you can be rich and still make good songs with good lyrics. Every song doesn't have to be about the ghetto or poor...

Perfect example of someone that has money and been in the game for a long ass time but has never fallen off is ANDRE 3 STACKS BENJAMIN

http://pureandgood.tumblr.com/ IG: thevictoryspeech

July 13, 2013 @ 02:15 PM
ThaGoldenBoy

Post: 1744

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: UK

all of y'all can critcize how weak Jay z is but he's winning

He got beyonce, he makes hella money off other shit, movies, etc= hella money
We ain't doubting that though. We just saying he ain't that dope
July 13, 2013 @ 02:15 PM
ThaGoldenBoy

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Location: UK

for all yall tombot jay rich now so he aint got nothin to rap about. come on, mayne. it doesn't matter what he has or where he is. there are an infinite number of topics people can talk about. you can be rich and still make good songs with good lyrics. Every song doesn't have to be about the ghetto or poor...

Perfect example of someone that has money and been in the game for a long ass time but has never fallen off is ANDRE 3 STACKS BENJAMIN
Exactly.
July 13, 2013 @ 02:24 PM
totalespionage

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Location: DMV

I guess niggas forgot about Reasonable Doubt. 
July 13, 2013 @ 02:35 PM
nat turner

Post: 1760

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I guess niggas forgot about Reasonable Doubt. 
aint nobody say jay always had weak lyrics, we're tombot in recent times, brotha

http://pureandgood.tumblr.com/ IG: thevictoryspeech

July 13, 2013 @ 02:42 PM
Hellah Fresh

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July 13, 2013 @ 02:45 PM
suparise71

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Jay-z for Most boring rapper in my opinion 

- Tracy Jackson

https://twitter.com/tracyjackson71

July 13, 2013 @ 07:03 PM
Moises Arias

Post: 2002

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Jay will always be the GOAT in my view. He can flow better than every rapper out there. Nas only beats him in lyrics

My name is ASAC Schrader, and you can go fuck yourself.

July 13, 2013 @ 10:30 PM
Clarence_Boddicker

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"Holy Grail", "Jay-Z Blue","Oceans","Nickles and Dimes"," Heaven?"  People keep complaining about "Rich Raps" "thats all Jay raps about" Did you all just skip about 6 tracks on the album? cause those songs listed have nothing to do with the subject matter.
July 13, 2013 @ 10:33 PM
Rigbeezus

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Ive never really liked Jay to be honest. Always thought Nas was much better
- said everyone ever

99 til Infinity time, we in the sky beyond enemy lines cause 90s babies its a matter of timing

July 14, 2013 @ 12:49 AM
Hashy

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Have any of you niggas heard Oceans Ft. Frank Ocean??? Metaphors on metaphors. Even though his shit not where it was he's still got the best album of the year so far.
July 14, 2013 @ 12:52 AM
Bishop Don SpacePimp

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Location: The Crime Labyrinth

Ive never really liked Jay to be honest. Always thought Nas was much better
- said everyone ever

I've been known to invoke......FEELINGS. #NoPromo #NoFearGang #AntiMuffinMovement

July 14, 2013 @ 01:19 AM
oneallah

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Location: in yo closet


/end thread


/SUPER END THREAD
July 14, 2013 @ 01:43 AM
Hashy

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How does a thread about Jay Z falling off turn into a comparison thread?
July 14, 2013 @ 01:59 AM
DStyles

Post: 9513

Join Date: Mar 2007

Location: Brooklyn, NY



OP probably likes naus.


It ain't hard to tell
I'm the new Jean Michel
Surrounded by Warhols
My whole team ball
Twin Bugattis outside the Art Basel
I just wanna live life colossal
Leonardo Da Vinci flows
Riccardo Tisci Givenchy clothes
See me thrown at the Met
Vogue'ing on these niggas
Champagne on my breath, Yes
House like the Louvre or the Tate Modern
Because I be going ape at the auction
Oh what a feeling
Aw fuck it I want a trillion
Sleeping every night next to Mona Lisa
The modern day version
With better features
Yellow Basquiat in my kitchen corner
Go ahead lean on that shit Blue
You own it




I may have to go rap genius on these cacs. King Hov can rap the simplest shit and spit deeper than that kufi wearing faggot naus. There's a reason why Jay-Z is the GOAT and King of Hip Hop and why naus is the L King.


Hov keep getting that dinero, got it
Even if a nigga gotta Robert, get it?

cotdamn!!!

Last.fm - DStyles23 Xbox Live GT: DStyles23

July 14, 2013 @ 02:13 AM
shakintheD

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Join Date: Jul 2009

reasonable doubt > nas career
July 14, 2013 @ 02:33 AM
W33ZY

Post: 1151

Join Date: Feb 2008



OP probably likes naus.


It ain't hard to tell
I'm the new Jean Michel
Surrounded by Warhols
My whole team ball
Twin Bugattis outside the Art Basel
I just wanna live life colossal
Leonardo Da Vinci flows
Riccardo Tisci Givenchy clothes
See me thrown at the Met
Vogue'ing on these niggas
Champagne on my breath, Yes
House like the Louvre or the Tate Modern
Because I be going ape at the auction
Oh what a feeling
Aw fuck it I want a trillion
Sleeping every night next to Mona Lisa
The modern day version
With better features
Yellow Basquiat in my kitchen corner
Go ahead lean on that shit Blue
You own it




I may have to go rap genius on these cacs. King Hov can rap the simplest shit and spit deeper than that kufi wearing faggot naus. There's a reason why Jay-Z is the GOAT and King of Hip Hop and why naus is the L King.


Hov keep getting that dinero, got it
Even if a nigga gotta Robert, get it?

cotdamn!!!
swizz beat *cot dammit* cool
July 14, 2013 @ 02:52 AM
JohnvHarrison

Post: 2097

Join Date: Nov 2011

"Holy Grail", "Jay-Z Blue","Oceans","Nickles and Dimes"," Heaven?"  People keep complaining about "Rich Raps" "thats all Jay raps about" Did you all just skip about 6 tracks on the album? cause those songs listed have nothing to do with the subject matter.
nigga you used a song called "Nickles and Dimes" as an example how Jay doesn't just talk about Money

http://www.theyhatechange.com Beauty Squad Click on the rise #B$C Get down or lay down

July 14, 2013 @ 05:54 AM
ThhIro

Post: 40

Join Date: Jul 2013

he fell off a long time ago.
July 15, 2013 @ 12:53 PM
edubbb

Post: 62

Join Date: Jun 2013

reasonable doubt > nas career
Sorry cuz but you shouldn't even mention Reasonable Doubt in the same breath as Illmatic

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