August 8, 2012 @ 05:54 PM
Black Dave

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I stumbled across this article online somehow and it's kind of interesting. I'm prepared for a long list of "did not read"s so go ahead and bump that. If you have an opinion on it, that's cool too.
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Some of this is common sense, and obviously there are more reasons why pop/r&b/country/gospel/all other genres sell more than rap. But here are 10 specific things I’ve observed and experienced first hand while promoting rap music. Never one to present a problem without offering a solution, I suggest you check out That Retail Chick’s blog. She has years in the hip hop sales game.

1. Giving It Away for Free
If you want someone to buy the cow, don’t give away the milk for free. This isn’t to say stop providing fans with free downloads/streams every now and then to build anticipation, but there are also other ways to reach your listeners. Why would I buy your album when you’re going to put all the good music out via mixtapes before the record drops like [insert your favorite rapper here]?

2. Bootleggers/Internet Pirates
Piggy-backing off the above statement, bootleggers and internet pirates (myself not included lol) have a huge impact on record sales. Artists now have to come up with more and more creative ways to get attention for selling albums, especially rap artists. And it wouldn’t hurt to protect your files better smarty.

3. Rappers Motherfuckin’ Cuss Too God Damn Much Bitch Hoe. Fuck.
I cuss like a sailor, but I wouldn’t want my kids to do as I do. And kids buy music. Adults buy groceries. Oh yeah, quit dropping the n-word every 3 syllables.

4. Violent/Degrading Lyrics
See above statement. There are ways to talk about real life situations while still being responsible. On the flipside, sometimes the more shocking the material the more sales, but the masses aren’t going to pay for this. Women buy music guys.

5. Non-Inspirational
Not to sound like a hip hop bible thumper, but lyrics are washed out these days. I can fully appreciate a song that makes me want to white-girl-shake in the club, but I’m not going to buy an album based off that. It’s like a one night stand – we meet in the club, we have a good time, but I don’t want to take you home forever (this never happened to me btw, hypothetical). There’s only so many times I can listen to songs about cars, jewelry, and levels of splurging unattainable to the average man. Say something real.

6. Fans are Now “Industry Experts”
My fellow journalist Maurice Garland made a good point when he said there are no fans left because they’re all music industry expert now. Back in the day hip hoppers didn’t care about 1st week album sales, Billboard stats, or how well engineered a rap album is. Have you listened to an old Wu Tang album lately? They sound like they were recorded off a radio station with a tape player, but we didn’t care back then, we still came out of our pocket (or our parents’) for some good music. I’d sneak $10 out of my grandmother’s purse if a new Ghostface tape was dropping. Word is bond Gawd.

7. Artists are Not “Industry Experts”
It’s not cool when fans know more tricks of the trade than rappers do. My middle school sister can get an album uploaded to iTunes faster than a rapper can turn on an iPod. Know your industry or keep your hobby to yourself.

8. Poor Management/Label Reps
Following up from the previous reason, artists need to be more educated on label practices and more in touch with their team. There are countless stories of rappers hiring ill intentioned and/or unqualified friends to lead their business ventures. I don’t know about you, but I haven’t heard of many Fortune 500 companies headed by a group of retarded donkeys, yet I’ve met numerous asses representing talented flops.

9. Rappers Don’t Tour Efficiently
Hopping from no-name city to no-name city in a van with 10 other people, barely sleeping, scraping up food money, praying for a clean place to shower, dealing with janky promoters, all while leaving behind a family with mounting bills is definitely not ideal for any up-coming artist. But it’s a necessary to build rapport with fans. If nobody knows you, who will buy your album? If nobody knows you, who will to pay you $20,000 to perform at an arena? Crawl before you walk.

10. Rappers Smoke Too Much Weed
Smoking weed leads to poor decisions, slow actions, and many of the above-mentioned issues. It makes you lazy. And it makes you rap dumb. The same goes for “Molly”. You don’t sound good dude, you sound high.

**editing**
I forgot reason #11: Love and Hip Hop Atlanta
Who’s going to buy a rap album after watching this show?
August 8, 2012 @ 05:56 PM
DStyles

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August 8, 2012 @ 06:04 PM
Enzoo

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Your point..

Don't badmind me.

August 8, 2012 @ 06:08 PM
Black Dave

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No point. Topic of discussion.
August 8, 2012 @ 06:29 PM
Deweze

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So many big blogs celebrate giving albums for free also

Why pay when 15 sites already have a download link on the same day an album comes out. Actually sometimes Americans get a album earlier than the US release date because UK or Australia could have earlier release dates and then somebody from there puts it online.
August 8, 2012 @ 07:14 PM
Black Dave

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I think a new formula needs to be worked out that drives revenue for these guys. The thing is, rappers make money, from shows and merch sales, labels, who make money from album sales, aren't...but rappers need labels to fund their moneymaking efforts.
August 8, 2012 @ 08:12 PM
Enzoo

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Are you the real Black Dave....?

Don't badmind me.

August 8, 2012 @ 08:16 PM
SW∆G

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11. Being white and not Eminem.

Free Big Lurch.

August 8, 2012 @ 08:20 PM
drtmcgrt

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rap is fucking rap, period. why compare it to pop/r&b/country/gospel? smfh...

http://thebestkept.se

August 8, 2012 @ 10:12 PM
Black Dave

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Are you the real Black Dave....?


I'm not the new york black dave, who is definitely more popular than I am, I live in the south but I've been "black dave" for fucking 10 years and I'm not changing my name because some other guy decided it was gonna be his rap name.
August 8, 2012 @ 10:16 PM
londonlad

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" 5. Non-Inspirational
Not to sound like a hip hop bible thumper, but lyrics are washed out these days. I can fully appreciate a song that makes me want to white-girl-shake in the club, but I’m not going to buy an album based off that. It’s like a one night stand – we meet in the club, we have a good time, but I don’t want to take you home forever (this never happened to me btw, hypothetical). There’s only so many times I can listen to songs about cars, jewelry, and levels of splurging unattainable to the average man. Say something real."

This.
August 8, 2012 @ 10:24 PM
drtmcgrt

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^there's TONS of lyrical and inspirational shit out there to listen to... wtf are you idiots talking about?

http://thebestkept.se

August 8, 2012 @ 10:34 PM
Black Dave

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" 5. Non-Inspirational
Not to sound like a hip hop bible thumper, but lyrics are washed out these days. I can fully appreciate a song that makes me want to white-girl-shake in the club, but I’m not going to buy an album based off that. It’s like a one night stand – we meet in the club, we have a good time, but I don’t want to take you home forever (this never happened to me btw, hypothetical). There’s only so many times I can listen to songs about cars, jewelry, and levels of splurging unattainable to the average man. Say something real."

This.


^there's TONS of lyrical and inspirational shit out there to listen to... wtf are you idiots talking about?


Inspirational rappers aren't on the radio. Labels aren't signing inspirational rappers. Who's inspiring you right now though? Jay-Z because he finally stopped saying bitch? I'm gonna go with @londonlad on that specific point
August 8, 2012 @ 10:46 PM
Deweze

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^there's TONS of lyrical and inspirational shit out there to listen to... wtf are you idiots talking about?


tbh OP had some good points but that uninspirational shit is BS

carter 4 sold almost a mill first week. Garbage sells the most tbh
August 8, 2012 @ 11:02 PM
Black Dave

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I didn't write that. I found it online.
August 10, 2012 @ 12:47 AM
Crows

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I swear people were saying the same shit years ago as well

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