pssshhhh, look I like the kid musically but he doesn't have a quarter of the originality that OF had coming out of the gate. Theres mad cliche elements through the whole project and while its enjoyable the fact of the matter is OF became as important as it did mainly due to the fact that their whole movement really was insular, NOBODY does that style like those dudes and we've seen MANY people try.
Delivery, production sound, lyricism, flow, overall vibe, at its best Odd Future really did completely set a new precedent for all of that shit and while I definitely appreciate 1999 its far from a game changer
i feel you dude, my point wasn't that 1999 was a game changer at all though. and in a way, it was, because if a kid with this much skill on the mic is getting actual mtv play now, something that didn't happen much in the past decade, it naturally raises the standards for talent and in effect, creativity. OF is creative and even though i don't like him, ill definitely admit tyler is a talented producer, but they lack a huge degree of talent and even proficiency which to anyone who is aware of simply better shit, just leaves them see through, boring, and generally forgettable. OFs creativity resting on gimmicks is a reflection of this, too, along with the fact that their recognition is fueled by hype
Originally posted by Inactive UserOriginally posted by Inactive UserSo woke up to MTV2 Sucker Free Countdown and this dude was on there with the number 9 video. IMO I hate these cheap imitation 90s rappers. Though I will say he can rap, I am just tired of the cliche.
having bars, actual flow, and at least a somewhat original style completely =/= being a 90s rapper. you're getting actual hip hop confused with "90s rap", along with everyone who's said that in this thread so far. genuine self expression/culture will never be a cliche by the way.
I am pretty sure his style isn't original. His bars are okay not for me as of now. Flow is cool but nothing I will really ride. Fact remains the same him and a slew of worse rappers are riding this 90s train hard.
lol he definitely has a considerably original style, not having blatant gimmicks about him doesn't take away from the musical stilo he obviously has. and again, theres nothing 90s about him besides the fact that he can actually spit..like people in the 90s could...