August 18, 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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August 18, 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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no i'm saying that's all that matters


Agreed. But for some reason the fact that they are doing something new(that still sounds good to me) it's not Hip Hop or it's not great.confused

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August 18, 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Section 80 had better concepts and deeper subject matter not to mention was a fully thought out project. IMO Section 80 is the best rap album to come out this year. WTT was a good cd, but lets not get good confused with God sent. WTT was a braggadocious mockery and fell substantually short of what it was suppose to be. I can honestly say in a few months i probably wont have this album in regular rotation, UNLIKE Section 80. Not to mention all of Kendrick's mixtapes are very good and underrated. And this is coming from a guy who puts both Kanye and Jay in his top 3.


How did Section80 have better concepts? Are you saying WTT wasn't well thought out? If you believe it is a better album than either it just sounds better to you or like i said before maybe you relate to the subject matter in the lyrics?

What was it suppose to be? Did Kanye and Jay say what it was suppose to be on some interview or something? I'll be honest and say at first listen i was like this isn't what i wanted the album to be at all. But i'm pretty sure they accomplished what they wanted(besides selling a mili in the first week) to accomplish. I haven't heard any album with this production quality,creativity or any Hip Hop that sounds like this ever. And don't say it isn't Hip Hop. Especially when Kendrick is rapping over a Jazz beat. And i think thats very cool.
I'm sure someone is going to say i'm talking about production again and not lyrics. Well WTT lyrics are good to me. I didn't expect much more from Jay. BTW Jay Z is not one of my favorite rappers or anything. So i have no clue how i am a Jay nut rider. Maybe because i highly respect the efforts of this album?

It's funny that for once i am going against a album full of meaning(nothing crazy heart warming in my opinion) when usually all i do is defend Cudi,Lupe,Kanye,Mos Def, ect.... in these Lil Wayne is the best rapper arguments with people in here or with my friends. What can i say. WTT isn't what everyone expected(doesn't mean it isn't a great album), but It's still my favorite album this year.

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August 18, 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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i love this thread

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August 19, 2011 @ 03:32 AM
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How did Section80 have better concepts? Are you saying WTT wasn't well thought out? If you believe it is a better album than either it just sounds better to you or like i said before maybe you relate to the subject matter in the lyrics?

Well it wasn't thought out line for line in reation to the last or a common themed album. Minus a couple of songs just to style on (Rigamortus, Hol' Up, and The Spiteful Chant) You knew he was refrencing something from the song concept. WTT the was well thought out, but YeJay didn't plan the details of songs, and what they were neccasarily going to rap about. They rapped about there seperate experiences, but tried to mesh it together however they chose. What they shoulda done was a concept album on extravagence, having the top spots in rap, inpacting culture, and things of that nature, and if they did it right coulda easily been a 5 mic classic.( Like their hype suggested.)

I'm sure someone is going to say i'm talking about production again and not lyrics. Well WTT lyrics are good to me. I didn't expect much more from Jay. BTW Jay Z is not one of my favorite rappers or anything. So i have no clue how i am a Jay nut rider. Maybe because i highly respect the efforts of this album?

Dude, stop talking about the fucking produc... I'm just playing. Everything they did was high quality shit, but I along with EVERYBODY else had higher expectations whether they say it or not. I said you a Kanye nut rider not Jay smile

It's still my favorite album this year.

I respect that, but you gotta also respect why we think Sectio80 is album of the year. >sad
August 19, 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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August 19, 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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Section 80 had better concepts and deeper subject matter not to mention was a fully thought out project. IMO Section 80 is the best rap album to come out this year. WTT was a good cd, but lets not get good confused with God sent. WTT was a braggadocious mockery and fell substantually short of what it was suppose to be. I can honestly say in a few months i probably wont have this album in regular rotation, UNLIKE Section 80. Not to mention all of Kendrick's mixtapes are very good and underrated. And this is coming from a guy who puts both Kanye and Jay in his top 3.


that's the problem with most people. what was WTT 'Supposed' to be?

Kanye said last year that WTT would be "Luxury Rap".

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August 19, 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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that's the problem with most people. what was WTT 'Supposed' to be?

Kanye said last year that WTT would be "Luxury Rap".


Thanks.

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August 19, 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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that's the problem with most people. what was WTT 'Supposed' to be?

Kanye said last year that WTT would be "Luxury Rap".


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August 19, 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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Comparing Section.80 with WTT never even crossed my mind
August 19, 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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Comparing Section.80 with WTT never even crossed my mind


Seriously tf is wrong wit yall?
August 19, 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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this might be true, i do love WTT, but Kendrick is that next level dude.

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August 19, 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Comparing Section.80 with WTT never even crossed my mind


honestly big fan of all 3 of em and i agree. WTT and section 80 are different on every level
August 19, 2011 @ 10:14 PM
CuttyBuddy

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Seriously tf is wrong wit yall?


What you mean
August 19, 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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that's the problem with most people. what was WTT 'Supposed' to be?

Kanye said last year that WTT would be "Luxury Rap".


lmao yo deadass fuck "Luxury Rap" and fuck Kanye too

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August 19, 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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honestly big fan of all 3 of em and i agree. WTT and section 80 are different on every level




yeah word...section80 is BETTER on every level. haha
August 20, 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Comparing Section.80 with WTT never even crossed my mind


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August 20, 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Yea Section.80 is better. It's the best album of the year to be honest. WTT is also good but a couple songs killed the value of it liek New Day. The lyrics were emotional but the beat was just awful. And the stupid 3 minute pause in IMA which could've been another song. Why they did that only God knows.
August 20, 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Section 80 isn't even that dope to me, but it is better. Same could be said about a lot of albums to drop this year tho, WTT gets a 4/10 from me. razz
August 20, 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2xD9Z5IMvcV4N0bw

watch this and tell me when the last time an album moved other LEGENDS enough to have them pass a torch and admit that they were better than them at what they do (The Game of all people). Who's the last artist that really had a whole movement and coast behind them 110%?

Kendrick Won.
August 21, 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2xD9Z5IMvcV4N0bw

watch this and tell me when the last time an album moved other LEGENDS enough to have them pass a torch and admit that they were better than them at what they do (The Game of all people). Who's the last artist that really had a whole movement and coast behind them 110%?

Kendrick Won.


Yeah but how many people felt this way about Kanye when College Dropout came out? Everyone loves modest Ye. In 5years we will see if Kendrick raps the same and doesn't gain confidence in who he is and what he does. The thing is, majority of the world is haters and they loved Ye before he spoke up about how he feels with confidence. Kendrick just has that shock factor. He can make good Hip Hop for a rookie without having to make radio hits. It just happens to be that a great Hip Hop artist shined early in his career around the same time WTT came out. And everyone is spoiled with what Ye and Jay have already put out. Section80 surprised people with how good it was for someone at his career level and WTT was lees than what people wanted for Jay and Ye. WTT is still different than any other Hip Hop album while still sounding great.

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August 21, 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Section 80 is overrated like mad crazy
August 21, 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Yeah but how many people felt this way about Kanye when College Dropout came out? Everyone loves modest Ye. In 5years we will see if Kendrick raps the same and doesn't gain confidence in who he is and what he does. The thing is, majority of the world is haters and they loved Ye before he spoke up about how he feels with confidence. Kendrick just has that shock factor. He can make good Hip Hop for a rookie without having to make radio hits. It just happens to be that a great Hip Hop artist shined early in his career around the same time WTT came out. And everyone is spoiled with what Ye and Jay have already put out. Section80 surprised people with how good it was for someone at his career level and WTT was lees than what people wanted for Jay and Ye. WTT is still different than any other Hip Hop album while still sounding great.


Nobody felt that way when College Dropout came out. I remember him becoming a part of rocafella, but thats about it. No legends passed him a torch or said that he was better than them at what he does. Not to take anything away from Kanye..he's one of the best artists in the world. But Kendrick has a movement going bigger than just music or art..he's the first to speak for the generation of people that have come after the Kanye's and Jay-Z's. Will his music sound the same in 5 years? Of course not. He will grow as a person just like the rest of us. But as far as right now, he is an artist more people can relate to because he's not so far from the life and times that were dealing with right now. He paints that picture better than anyone else. Kanye and Jay-z are still great in their own right, but they are multi-millionaires living a lifestyle that most of us can only dream about. It shows in their music on WTT. Their experiences and the things they talk about are not something a regular person can relate to. It's life in the perspective of Kanye & JAY-Z. While Kendricks approach is life in the perspective of a whole generation. SECTION80 won.
August 22, 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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For that to be your argument your a fucking moron.
August 22, 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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For that to be your argument your a fucking moron.



For you to judge my opinion without even having reason proves you to be ignorant.
August 22, 2011 @ 10:57 PM
JacquesMyBeats

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Nobody felt that way when College Dropout came out. I remember him becoming a part of rocafella, but thats about it. No legends passed him a torch or said that he was better than them at what he does. Not to take anything away from Kanye..he's one of the best artists in the world. But Kendrick has a movement going bigger than just music or art..he's the first to speak for the generation of people that have come after the Kanye's and Jay-Z's. Will his music sound the same in 5 years? Of course not. He will grow as a person just like the rest of us. But as far as right now, he is an artist more people can relate to because he's not so far from the life and times that were dealing with right now. He paints that picture better than anyone else. Kanye and Jay-z are still great in their own right, but they are multi-millionaires living a lifestyle that most of us can only dream about. It shows in their music on WTT. Their experiences and the things they talk about are not something a regular person can relate to. It's life in the perspective of Kanye & JAY-Z. While Kendricks approach is life in the perspective of a whole generation. SECTION80 won.



You have some valid points, but having meaning throughout a album that appeals to the masses more doesn't mean it is BETTER. Thats like saying Wiz leads the masses of pot heads so his album is better. Just Because people can relate to Ye and Jay's feelings way less than they can to Kendrick's doesn't mean it is a better album. It sounds like because you can relate with him and not Ye or Jay, you feel his album is better. To me that sounds like you just connected better with Section80 than you did with WTT. It seems like 90% of the world thinks just because you have a lot of money you can't have problems. Or people don't sympathize for someone that has financial freedom. P Diddy-"More money more problems."

Wouldn't you say that the album is doing something different than anyone else is doing? Besides the fact that i stress how amazing the production quality and creativity are. They talk about some of the problems that people have with the level of fame,money responsibilities that they are at. Lupe already covered/covers the subjects that Section covered. And i think Lupe is better at it too.

As for this whole "Passing of the torch" deal. Come on. I'm for Cali. I can tell you there aren't as many Hip Hop legends that come from the West coast. Ok, Tupac was awesome, but besides him who else? Dr. Dre is a great producer and has made his mark on Hip Hop. Snoop Dog hasn't really made anything good since the 90's. A couple good radio singles and thats it. Too Short is really funny, has a great flow and has no heart warming lyrics. lol Game is like a west coast Nas. I like the Game. Take away some of his Shit talking and he is solid. The reason i listed these artists is to show you the only Hip Hop artist that are relevant to the world from the West coast. I might have missed someone but you get the point.

The only people that gave him this "torch" are those few. The rest of the world didn't give him that torch. Kanye is relevant to the world and was when CD dropped. No one gave him a "torch" because there are way too many relevant Hip Hop artists from the East coast and it's just crazy to crown a rookie no matter how good he is. This "Torch" you speak of is yet to be clearly owned by anyone in the rest of the world or eat coast. Eminem,Jay Z,Kanye,Lil Wayne,Lupe and the rest of the newer artists that are catching up. I hope that now you realize that "torch from the West Coast isn't as important as you may think. A great achievement though.

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August 23, 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Not many people have his problems.............

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