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July 19, 2011 @ 06:08 PM
thekidjay52

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The simile of a doctor was just something I threw out there to establish a point. No matter how many doctors there are the prestige is still there NO MATTER WHAT. Honestly, you can't compare a doctor and a rapper profession wise. I've seen some OK rappers and some GREAT rappers. But have you ever seen an OK doctor? They're non existent because to be a doctor you just simply have to be GREAT at what you do....which is why the prestige will never fade. The prestige of being a great rappper will never go away no matter HOW MANY rappers there are. With all these new rappers would you say Jay-Z amounts to nothing? Nas? BIG? Tupac? Exactly. You can't bring "prestige" into this....that's something that will always be there.
July 19, 2011 @ 06:42 PM
Child Pwnography

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hip-hop will eventually die


if u believe that. u have no understanding of what "rap' actually is.

Why u mad?

July 19, 2011 @ 07:04 PM
ᴊᴜᴀɴ

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hip-hop will eventually die


STFU Basedmeech
July 19, 2011 @ 08:53 PM

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I hate this fucking world we live in these days....why does everyone feel the need to hate on the next man trying to make his come up?
People are creative...let them be that.
Everyone may want to rap now but why stop them?
Eventually all the greats from the game are gonna throw in the towel and be done with the game.
We need up and coming talent to take their place.
That's like everyone all of sudden wanting to be a doctor....would you knock them?
Just let people be.


no

hip-hop will eventually die

Fuck anyone who disrespects hip-hop....
July 20, 2011 @ 08:16 AM
thekidjay52

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That's cool....just fuck everyone who is trying to be creative huh?
Some of the greatest MC's of our time were those same creative dudes you knocking.
But I mean....hey.
Everyone has their own opinion I guess.
July 20, 2011 @ 09:16 AM
JimmyRS

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Location: Memphis, TN

The simile of a doctor was just something I threw out there to establish a point. No matter how many doctors there are the prestige is still there NO MATTER WHAT. Honestly, you can't compare a doctor and a rapper profession wise. I've seen some OK rappers and some GREAT rappers. But have you ever seen an OK doctor? They're non existent because to be a doctor you just simply have to be GREAT at what you do....which is why the prestige will never fade. The prestige of being a great rappper will never go away no matter HOW MANY rappers there are. With all these new rappers would you say Jay-Z amounts to nothing? Nas? BIG? Tupac? Exactly. You can't bring "prestige" into this....that's something that will always be there.


There is a such thing as great doctors and decent doctors...
July 20, 2011 @ 09:41 AM
Gilly Suits

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The simile of a doctor was just something I threw out there to establish a point. No matter how many doctors there are the prestige is still there NO MATTER WHAT. Honestly, you can't compare a doctor and a rapper profession wise. I've seen some OK rappers and some GREAT rappers. But have you ever seen an OK doctor? They're non existent because to be a doctor you just simply have to be GREAT at what you do....which is why the prestige will never fade. The prestige of being a great rappper will never go away no matter HOW MANY rappers there are. With all these new rappers would you say Jay-Z amounts to nothing? Nas? BIG? Tupac? Exactly. You can't bring "prestige" into this....that's something that will always be there.


Throwing out a bad simile is not how you help your argument. No there isn't a prestige if everyone does it and does it well. The prestige is usually on a few factors the main ones being money and skill as more people enter a field 2 things either pay rises and less people get jobs or pay drops tremendously and market becomes saturated. What does this mean? Your skill and training most likely goes to waste as you can't get a job which other professions are experiencing now or you work for less than what you should have to. To the point about 'okay doctors' actually most doctors are okay doctors to tell you the truth as you could very well fire your doctor who gives you your check-up and get millions of others. These are the doctors who you will most likely see and experience in your lifetime and of course a few cancer doctors not to anything to try and diss you its just on the rise. Aside from the cancer doctors most nurses who have been in the field could give you a proper check up. There is a big discrepancy in pay and respect among doctors who do this and focus or more centered focuses. There are a few who are specialists they are the truly commendable ones that make breakthroughs or perform very tedious surgeries, birth babies, work with mental diseased patients. And last I feel to address your misuse of what I called prestige amongst the MC profession. Of course there will be many people who flood the market bad to great. If more show up that are great it does 2 things like mentioned before brings more listeners to the few people we already accept in turn making them richer or it makes them make less money as record companies will have people to replace them after they are gone and if those people act up another easy replacement. So to end this rant, I will end with this statement, "Prestige needs these factors:a considerable amount of people to fail at it, dedication to work up the ranks, amount of pay/money, who you know, and title; all of these are influenced by how many people want to do it, so you could say there is a prestige in being a rapper." I want a proper argument next time.

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July 20, 2011 @ 09:42 AM
Gilly Suits

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There is a such thing as great doctors and decent doctors...


He doesn't understand that

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July 20, 2011 @ 12:22 PM
damnwitless2

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lmao at people comparing "the prestige of being a doctor" with rapping. Rapping is, say it with me now, an art. Art. So that in and of itself is going to disqualify a whole heap of you from being able to relate to it at all because the motivation to create (genuine) art is never money. Yeah, money is great and we're all trying to get as much of it as possible, but at the end of the day, anybody that's really about this rap shit will tell you that more than anything it's about spreading your voice, having something to say and the need to say it on as big of a scale as possible.
So this whole idea of the game being saturated and as such nullifying the point of it in the first place, is without a doubt the gayest shit I ever heard because at the end of the day, if you are truly an MC you'd be rapping if nobody listened at all.

All I do is smoke weed, blow lines, and listen to MF DOOM. And rap. http://www.facebook.com/SpacemanNYC

July 20, 2011 @ 12:49 PM
Freddie Benson

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what ive gathered is the internet makes it easier to put music out, succes from other HB dudes inspires new guys and the fact that you dont need any talent at all to succeed in rap is breeding a lot of rappers

anal del rey http://yellow-stuff.com

July 20, 2011 @ 01:19 PM
heeennry

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lmao at people comparing "the prestige of being a doctor" with rapping. Rapping is, say it with me now, an art. Art. So that in and of itself is going to disqualify a whole heap of you from being able to relate to it at all because the motivation to create (genuine) art is never money. Yeah, money is great and we're all trying to get as much of it as possible, but at the end of the day, anybody that's really about this rap shit will tell you that more than anything it's about spreading your voice, having something to say and the need to say it on as big of a scale as possible.
So this whole idea of the game being saturated and as such nullifying the point of it in the first place, is without a doubt the gayest shit I ever heard because at the end of the day, if you are truly an MC you'd be rapping if nobody listened at all.


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but to answer OP's question, I believe that all these new people trying to rap are doing it because it's trending and it's the cool thing to do. But you never know, they might have been doing it for a while and just never released their music. Kind of like the last thing witless said.

I had taken the words out of his mouth and filled it with fart.

July 20, 2011 @ 01:40 PM
Freddie Benson

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lmao at people comparing "the prestige of being a doctor" with rapping. Rapping is, say it with me now, an art. Art. So that in and of itself is going to disqualify a whole heap of you from being able to relate to it at all because the motivation to create (genuine) art is never money. Yeah, money is great and we're all trying to get as much of it as possible, but at the end of the day, anybody that's really about this rap shit will tell you that more than anything it's about spreading your voice, having something to say and the need to say it on as big of a scale as possible.
So this whole idea of the game being saturated and as such nullifying the point of it in the first place, is without a doubt the gayest shit I ever heard because at the end of the day, if you are truly an MC you'd be rapping if nobody listened at all.



anal del rey http://yellow-stuff.com

July 20, 2011 @ 02:32 PM
Gilly Suits

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lmao at people comparing "the prestige of being a doctor" with rapping. Rapping is, say it with me now, an art. Art. So that in and of itself is going to disqualify a whole heap of you from being able to relate to it at all because the motivation to create (genuine) art is never money. Yeah, money is great and we're all trying to get as much of it as possible, but at the end of the day, anybody that's really about this rap shit will tell you that more than anything it's about spreading your voice, having something to say and the need to say it on as big of a scale as possible.
So this whole idea of the game being saturated and as such nullifying the point of it in the first place, is without a doubt the gayest shit I ever heard because at the end of the day, if you are truly an MC you'd be rapping if nobody listened at all.


Talking about rap as a profession not as something to do. Rap is a form of art, if you are making a career out of it, of course you want people to listen to what you have to say but with like every profession you are trying to make money which is what this whole argument started about. Last point if you are rapping for the fun of it without trying to profit or anything to come from it, it's not a profession it's a hobby.

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July 20, 2011 @ 03:05 PM
damnwitless2

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yeah but nobody starts as a professional rapper. Any rapper anybody can think of started off doing it by themselves, sharpening their skills, developing as an artist, and then after they put in enough work got noticed and started gaining fans. I'm trying to go pro with this rap shit, but I understand that the only people that go pro are the ones who genuinely have an appreciation for the craft because at the end of the day, nobody in the game, from Soulja Boy to the Gza, got on out of pure luck. Marketability, prolificness, aesthetic cohesion, none of these things come any other way but prolonged hard work.

All I do is smoke weed, blow lines, and listen to MF DOOM. And rap. http://www.facebook.com/SpacemanNYC

July 20, 2011 @ 03:47 PM

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That's cool....just fuck everyone who is trying to be creative huh?
Some of the greatest MC's of our time were those same creative dudes you knocking.
But I mean....hey.
Everyone has their own opinion I guess.


no, i'm not saying "fuck everyone who's trying to be creative".

and no, i'm not knocking people with talent.

i'm saying that only a small percentage of people doing anything have actual talent.

the rest are just big headed conceited morons.
July 20, 2011 @ 04:37 PM
Black John Jay

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Hip Hop Forever.
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