if you have a redwings store they have this machine that will measure your foot size and take in consideration of your width of your feet.
They measured mine 9.5 which i think is correct considering i size up 1/2 to 10 on most shoes because my feet are wide.
oh alright, there isn't an actual redwings store here, but a bunch of retailers that sell them, i guess i'll have to go down to one of them and see for myself and hope they have the ones i want


