But on the real though if you guys over at @infoconceivingdesigns ever need some real design help on side projects or anything like that let me know. The extra money wouldn't hurt and I'm sure you customers would enjoy the assistance of a great graphic designer.
Here is some small jobs I have done in the past. If you want to check me out. I can do color separation as well. http://bigbankdesigns.wordpress.com/
My rates depend on the difficulty of the work being done. But I'll work with you guys and hook you up with some good rates so you can still make some money.
Just inbox me
Your graphics aren't original you're literally taking photos from the internet, twisting them and claiming them as your "designs". You know it too. Our website was created just to serve as a basic visual for customers. Our work does speak for itself and our clientele does spread the word about our business but why stop there?? They are called stock photos for a reason. Does it say anywhere there that those photos "show our design skills"... No they don't now you're creating your own statements. How in the world does printing an invoice on white paper and black ink consider it "fake"? That's great you know of that shop, he is printing on the cheapest quality material to provide those prices, along with his automatic press so he hardly does any work and you still don't know our prices but you are trying to make a comparison. You're running your mouth based on your assumptions. After saying all that you think we'll want to work with you?! LOL at that! PEACE.
I would have logged off a couple of hours ago but oh well here goes.
I was so bored at work, I actually took the time to read the notes and info on your site, as well as the photos you posted. That actually took all of 5 minutes, known of which I will be able get back. So everything that I am stating is facts based on the information YOU provided. So I am not assuming anything. If you took the time the print out a piece of paper with numbers and words on it and then post a pictures of it, then it must have meant something. And then you took the time out of your day the look for the photo in whatever folder you stored it in, edit it and rehost it. Please dear sir tell me why so much effort was used in order to cover up what YOU originally made and that I brought to your attention?
And by the way if you have some free time you should read the comments that were posted with the graphics I used on my website, that I made. I, unlike yourself made very clear which designs were original and which ones were inspired work. Out of the 13, 4 are inspired work and I made that very clear in the description so that customers will know exactly what they are looking at rather then coming to their own conclusion. Something you should have thought of in the process of making your site.
That's the very first rule of thumb when providing customer service. 9 years of expertise should have taught you that.
As a graphic designer, I know very well what "stock photos" are. I also know that website much like Shutterstock host royalty free images that can be used, WITH the purchase of a subscription to their website. These images are made to be purchased for use by any multiple of customers with the intent of use for non-commercial or commercial placement. Before I assume anything did you guys in fact pay for a subscription to any Image hosting website in order for the rights to use that photo or just find it on the web, preview image, save-is, open, crop and rehost?
Now onto the other part of your comment regarding the shop I used. Oh but WAIT, you didn't respond to the other website I posted that apparently from what they posted on their website DON'T charge set up fee's unlike you guys and ALL of the westcoast (which I can only assume you are referring to when you say up and down the coast. Did these phone call also include Washington and Oregon? They are part of the westcoast all though northwest if I were trying to be specific. Now I'm just rambling...)
You and I both know that there are certain level shirts provided to wholesalers. Gildan being bottom of the barrel which MOST shop will provide in their "cheap" quotes. You and I both know that there are a number of different options provided to customers who obtain quotes from silk screening shops so with that being said his prices are still cheaper then yours. You should look through his prices. I mean you really should, it might help you in the future if and when you gain some more customers who ask why your prices are so high. If you noticed he had a section for prices if you were to provide your own garments. One color screen hit is $2.00. Now let's pretend I don't have my wholesale/resale license. That would mean I would have to purchase my shirts from a T-shirt mart or something along those lines, which because of the great place that we live in are located all through the state of California. That would mean I would be purchasing my shirts for $3 maybe $3.50. The additional ink hit from his price guide is $1.50. That makes the total cost of the shirt $6.50. Let pretend I had 24 made that's $156. Now let's add on his Set-Up Fee. $10 and 2 film positives @ $5 that's a total of $20. Why only 1 screen fee, because you and I both know that you can clearly fit a 4x4 print on the same screen as a 12x12 design print no problem. But if you want to nickle and dime your customers you'll go ahead and charge them for 2 screens, just because YOU CAN. But back to his charges.
That would make the total $176 making it cost $7.34 per shirt to be made.
Why did I take the time our of my boring day to do all this:
1. To show other people in this thread how to cost effectively get your shirt printed by your local screen printing shop without being nickle and dimmed.
2. Because the piece of paper you posted on your website that you are now hiding is very misleading and even if it was inaccurate your prices are still high as fuck, whether it was 24 or 42 shirts.
3. Because you have awaken the sleeping troll and this is deeply entertaining to me.
I'm not running my mouth off assumption. Like stated before, YOU posted that picture not me. And whatever made up numbers you decided to waste your time and type on the paper for whatever reason, potential customer saw it and were immediately turned off by the high cost your are spooning off to your customers. Which is probably the reason why you deleted the numbers as to not allude any other customers in to thinking you are giving them the "most
affordable prices within our industry" when you are not.
And "Yes", after saying all that I did assume maybe you would like to work with me. At least I'm being honest. You should try working with honest people. It'll help your business. I gained all this information from honest people I have worked with. Screen Printers who were willing to share with me tips and secrets because they saw the potential and my drive for greatness. Not just a kid trying to make a quick buck off someone else. So in turn that didn't feel right doing me like they did other other customers who didn't do they research.
And for the record Broken Bank doesn't mean poverty or being broke or without resources, it means going for Broke. Putting your all in what you do and reaping the outcome. Endless amount of wealth whether it be knowledge or financially, so much so that it "breaks the bank and can't be contained or held in"