Starting a New Line/Brand Feedback Thread

April 05, 2012 @ 18:09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
Some info on that, some people get confused with the difference.

When can I use the ®

Many people are confused on this subject and use "TM" or “®” incorrectly with their brand or logo.

When you use your trademark, logo or brand you can claim rights to it and you may use the “TM” (trademark) or “SM” (service mark) designation to alert the world to your claim of ownership of the brand. You may do so whether you have filed an application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO).

However, you may only use the federal registration symbol “®” after the USPTO actually registers a mark, and not while an application is pending.


what about ©
April 05, 2012 @ 18:44:39 PM
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Not getting the feedback that I'm looking for in the Brands section so I'm looking to all of you in here for some criticism. This is my Spring stuff and I'm pretty proud of it. Tell me what you like/dislike please


I like the eye design, I think it would look sick if you embroidered that onto a shirt or something instead of screen print but it still looks unique! blushing
I wanna do embroidery for hoodies and thicker things in the future but I'm not at that point yet homie haha
April 05, 2012 @ 19:45:29 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
Some info on that, some people get confused with the difference.

When can I use the ®

Many people are confused on this subject and use "TM" or “®” incorrectly with their brand or logo.

When you use your trademark, logo or brand you can claim rights to it and you may use the “TM” (trademark) or “SM” (service mark) designation to alert the world to your claim of ownership of the brand. You may do so whether you have filed an application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO).

However, you may only use the federal registration symbol “®” after the USPTO actually registers a mark, and not while an application is pending.


what about ©


Copyright © laws protect ownership of things like music, writing, artwork, photographs, and other "original works of authorship." Copyright protection is automatic and may last for over 100 years. However, not everything can be copyrighted, and some copyrights expired prior to 1976 laws. The "circle-c" mark has been "optional" since the 1970s, but is properly used with a date and identification of the author/owner. Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it is a federal crime to remove or alter a copyright notice when you're making copies, regardless of whether the copies are lawful or not.

Trademark laws protect "words, names, symbols, sounds, or colors that distinguish goods and services from those manufactured or sold by others and to indicate the source of the goods. Trademarks, unlike patents, can be renewed forever as long as they are being used in commerce." Unregistered trademarks are a bit harder to enforce than registered, but last as long as they are being used. Trademarks may be registered in states or countries or both.
The (TM) symbols for TM and SM are completely optional and require no registration. However, there are advantages to having a state or federal trademark registration, including the fact that it will tell others when you first used your brand, which can be important in priority disputes. Valuable marks justify getting professional advice.

So in short anything you create that is an original is already copyright. An Old fashion way of copyrighting your work is after you draw it, place it in a sealed envelope and mail it to yourself. Date and signature.
You apply for a trademark and pay to have it certified. What this does is register your work with the USPTO and if anyone uses the same thing or name they will send them a letter saying cease and desist or legal action can and will be taken.
Getting a Trademark cost about $150-250 I think. Can't remember how much i paid.
You can use Legalzoom they are very helpful in the process.
But if you are serious getting a TM is highly rec. in this business.

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April 05, 2012 @ 20:24:04 PM
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"Treeman" Crewneck & "District" Hooded Sweatshirt.

From a scrapped project. Just looking for critiques, thoughts, think constructive.

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April 05, 2012 @ 22:05:50 PM
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here are a few examples of hand drawn fonts...and how to make them work within you design.

by themselves...the fonts can look sloppy or unfinished, but when paired with an art style that font compliments, you can make some amazing original compositions!
April 05, 2012 @ 22:06:53 PM
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Bigger is better. People feel like they are getting more shirt when the design is bigger. But that also depends on selling price as well.
Unlike the big names out there the name sells the shirt for them so they can put a tiny little "faced bomb" or red boxed letter and it will sell.
But for us we have to sell based on design.

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

April 05, 2012 @ 22:11:51 PM
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"Treeman" Crewneck & "District" Hooded Sweatshirt.

From a scrapped project. Just looking for critiques, thoughts, think constructive.


From a start up stand point I would assume funds are limited; however your designs should be as strong as they can possibly be. The second pic which I will assume is your logo blends together and is difficult to read the typography. Also considering the size I would suggest you would have made the logo smaller and put it on the left or right side of the chest and did a enlarged print on the back of the shirt, which would have made more sense instead of so much wasted negative space on the sweat shirt. Wish you the best of luck, keep at it pimp.
April 05, 2012 @ 22:28:48 PM
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Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.






Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

April 05, 2012 @ 22:35:55 PM
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@ Grams
Bigger is better. People feel like they are getting more shirt when the design is bigger. But that also depends on selling price as well.
Unlike the big names out there the name sells the shirt for them so they can put a tiny little "faced bomb" or red boxed letter and it will sell.
But for us we have to sell based on design.


Honestly, what are you saying. How is bigger better?
Bigger is definitely not better. Smaller isn't better either. What's best is how it looks on the shirt.
If it looks good smaller, make it smaller, and if it looks better larger, make it a larger print.
People don't "feel like there getting more out of the shirt", because of a bigger graphic. People like how a shirt is designed and executed. Making the graphic big doesn't make it "better".

It all depends on how you brand it. Fourstar for example, is famous for having their logo small in the middle of the shirt. People like it because of the minimalism and simplicity.

Some people like Tapout (don't know why) cause of the big, detailed graphic all over the place. Tapout isn't "better" for making the graphic better. It all depends on how it's branded, the style, execution, and design.
April 05, 2012 @ 22:46:37 PM
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Location: Tampa, FLA
Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.







Decent, but stand strong behind what your brand stands for. I did some shirts for the Yeezy 1 release, I made money and that was it. Brands like Bobby Fresh will always be "compliment" tee's to me.
April 05, 2012 @ 23:00:35 PM
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@ Grams
Bigger is better. People feel like they are getting more shirt when the design is bigger. But that also depends on selling price as well.
Unlike the big names out there the name sells the shirt for them so they can put a tiny little "faced bomb" or red boxed letter and it will sell.
But for us we have to sell based on design.


Honestly, what are you saying. How is bigger better?
Bigger is definitely not better. Smaller isn't better either. What's best is how it looks on the shirt.
If it looks good smaller, make it smaller, and if it looks better larger, make it a larger print.
People don't "feel like there getting more out of the shirt", because of a bigger graphic. People like how a shirt is designed and executed. Making the graphic big doesn't make it "better".

It all depends on how you brand it. Fourstar for example, is famous for having their logo small in the middle of the shirt. People like it because of the minimalism and simplicity.

Some people like Tapout (don't know why) cause of the big, detailed graphic all over the place. Tapout isn't "better" for making the graphic better. It all depends on how it's branded, the style, execution, and design.


I was just speaking in regards to those particular designs. I wouldn't buy them becausr the logo appears to small. In my eyes something like that is worth $15-$20 for me. Unless he is getting a deep discount he wouldn't be making any money on those @ a low output/print rate.
Just my opinion but for me it depends on what the design is and then how big it is. I don't like Tapout shirts or any of those shirts that have angel wings and tattoo fonts across the chest cause they look to busy to me.
I have shirts with small 10" long phrases across the chest portion but it had a nice design to it.

I'm not talking about all designs in general just those above.

From looking @ the design and if you had to buy it, would you seeing the size it is?

Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.







Decent, but stand strong behind what your brand stands for. I did some shirts for the Yeezy 1 release, I made money and that was it. Brands like Bobby Fresh will always be "compliment" tee's to me.


Bobby Fresh make some legit stuff. That market is huge though so there is always room for some fresh designs.
I saw it as a "Business Adventure".
Something to help get my brand name out there.

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

April 05, 2012 @ 23:07:44 PM
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people actually like bobby fresh?
April 05, 2012 @ 23:09:43 PM
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Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.



I personally don't like sneaker-related tees but I think these are executed well. I like the second one especially because even though its nothing new and original, the way you paired the collegiate and shoelace text worked really well together.

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April 05, 2012 @ 23:29:05 PM
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people actually like bobby fresh?


you would be VERY surprised!
April 05, 2012 @ 23:29:41 PM
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people actually like bobby fresh?


probably not people on hypebeast though......
April 05, 2012 @ 23:32:36 PM
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"Treeman" Crewneck & "District" Hooded Sweatshirt.

From a scrapped project. Just looking for critiques, thoughts, think constructive.


From a start up stand point I would assume funds are limited; however your designs should be as strong as they can possibly be. The second pic which I will assume is your logo blends together and is difficult to read the typography. Also considering the size I would suggest you would have made the logo smaller and put it on the left or right side of the chest and did a enlarged print on the back of the shirt, which would have made more sense instead of so much wasted negative space on the sweat shirt. Wish you the best of luck, keep at it pimp.


Cool idea about the front & back, thanks.

I never knew going in, or even thought, that composition would be so fuckin' integral and difficult, I just thought it was all about slappin' a design on.

www.stillwild.co / online store that celebrates nature!

April 05, 2012 @ 23:43:01 PM
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Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.



I personally don't like sneaker-related tees but I think these are executed well. I like the second one especially because even though its nothing new and original, the way you paired the collegiate and shoelace text worked really well together.


Good eye on that. I actually did some thought on that part.
I took critique you guys said about the last shirt with the non matching fonts and put it to use.
Choosing good fonts is actually a lot harded when pairing it with the right design or artwork.
I actually probably went overboard and used that font on some other T's as well, but I'm making sure the designs match as well.

people actually like bobby fresh?


probably not people on hypebeast though......


yeah all in all they have some solid stuff. Not everything speaks to me but execution is pretty good on most of his shirts.

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

April 06, 2012 @ 00:46:20 AM
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Two shirts I'm doing right now.
Not totally related to my brand but if it helps bring in the funds to support to core of my business I don't mind doing it.

Both shirts were inspired buy two really big shoe releases coming out this month.



I personally don't like sneaker-related tees but I think these are executed well. I like the second one especially because even though its nothing new and original, the way you paired the collegiate and shoelace text worked really well together.


Good eye on that. I actually did some thought on that part.
I took critique you guys said about the last shirt with the non matching fonts and put it to use.
Choosing good fonts is actually a lot harded when pairing it with the right design or artwork.
I actually probably went overboard and used that font on some other T's as well, but I'm making sure the designs match as well.

people actually like bobby fresh?


probably not people on hypebeast though......


yeah all in all they have some solid stuff. Not everything speaks to me but execution is pretty good on most of his shirts.


Bobby Fresh has solid designs but I wouldn't compare them to Triumvir or Mishka. Both brands have a strong following. What type of success are you looking for?
April 06, 2012 @ 00:59:35 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 00:59:50 AM
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Decided if i was to start a brand i should start small, made some bracelets so far they are just samples/ones i had for wear....
What do you guys think?

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April 06, 2012 @ 01:05:28 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 01:16:37 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 01:38:21 AM
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stuff looking good


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April 06, 2012 @ 01:38:56 AM
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Good eye on that. I actually did some thought on that part.
I took critique you guys said about the last shirt with the non matching fonts and put it to use.
Choosing good fonts is actually a lot harded when pairing it with the right design or artwork.
I actually probably went overboard and used that font on some other T's as well, but I'm making sure the designs match as well.

I feel you on this last line. I would say that someone who is truly analyzing your brand would rather see consistent and well put together designs that are somewhat repetitive than more different ones that are a lot more scattered.

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April 06, 2012 @ 01:40:47 AM
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Originally posted by Inactive User








Decided if i was to start a brand i should start small, made some bracelets so far they are just samples/ones i had for wear....
What do you guys think?

I don't really mind this bracelet trend right now but if these are you 'promo photos' I would suggest at least putting them on a bed sheet is better than a the hundreds or dsc background because it seems as though you might be promoting them more than yourself.

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April 06, 2012 @ 01:44:48 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 01:51:37 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 02:06:58 AM
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April 06, 2012 @ 02:44:13 AM
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I have an advertising opportunity available to most brands I've seen in here.

I blog for DopeDrops.com and we've been wanting to hold some giveaways at least once every 2 weeks starting at the end of the month/early may.

I'll give a short explanation of how it'd work. PM me for more information if needed/interested. You provide the product, we provide the contest/advertising. How much you want to giveaway is up to you, but the more product is going to get more attention. To enter the contest you'd either post on twitter/facebook something like "____ & DopeDrops are giving away free shirts! Click here to enter!" It'll spread, because who doesn't want free stuff. So you'll get a ton of views/likes/follows. The winner/s would be announced at random a week later, and then you can ship out the stuff to them.

I'm sure if you're interested you want more information about DopeDrops. We started just 6 months ago but we've been growing very fast. We already average about 1.4-1.6k views a day. Just over 500 followers on twitter, and we have a number of connections that would help advertise these contests with retweets such as Best Midwest Ent. and some artists we've become friends with.

Just lemme know if you're interested, these contests seem like they'd be insanely good advertising for both parties.

Oh, and BTW, if anyone has a line dropping soon and you would like me to get you on dopedrops just shoot me a PM about that as well. I won't do this for every brand, but like I said there has only been a few brands in this thread that I haven't liked. I love supporting up and comers, especially since I fit that description right now as well.
April 06, 2012 @ 02:58:30 AM
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Not really my promo photos just thought id take some pics to get your guys opinions, i just used my laptop for a photo so you can see them with different backgrounds.

where the azn girls at

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