Yeah i can understand that, but try not to take things too personally. Anyway, good luck with the brand, i hope everything works out with it.Originally posted by Inactive UserI feel what you're saying man, and I got a digital proof from my manufacturer a while ago after i submitted them my template with the art-work on it and it appeared exactly as it should, but I can completely understand why people would want to see the actual shirts and pics of them should be up in about two weeks, but yeah when I was saying I know everything it was more out of spite and anger towards some people who down me i obviously don't know everything and still have much room to grow.Originally posted by Inactive Usermy own brandIf you already sold 20+ shirts, then why dont you have any photos of an actual product yet? Presenting mock ups is good if you want to get some feedback on a potential design, but if you are trying to sell something usually a buyer would want to see the actual product, not just a mock up template. This is especially important for the Judgement tee. We recently designed a shirt with the idea that it would look good sublimated all over on a t shirt. Mock up templates looked great, and everyone we showed the template to really liked it as well, however, once we ordered a sample we noticed that it did not work as well as we though in real life, so we had to alter the design. Point is, if we had already charged 20+ people who pre ordered this shirt, it would have been extremely embaressing either sending them a shirt that looked nothing like the mock up or having to refund their money because we werent capable of producing what we already sold. You get real defensive when people try to give you their opinion, chill man. Its dope that you sold 20+ shirts already, but have you reached your goal yet? I am guessing you want to make a living doing this, so at some point you are going to have to listen to others advice. I can definitely tell that you are passionate about what you are putting out, but getting defensive and acting like you know it all wont get you very far.