Starting a New Line/Brand Feedback Thread

Jun 08, 2013 @ 22:04
All of your criticism is only bringing more publicity to his work lol, I envy you @fosace

doesn't matter to me I am simply giving advice he can do whatever he chooses, but if he cant take criticism then he shouldn't be in this business because this it will never stop.
Jun 08, 2013 @ 22:13
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Jun 08, 2013 @ 22:20
about pricing....

it really has nothing to do with how new your brand is. 
some of you have some strange notion that if you are new, you need to charge $15 bucks for your tee...and as you grow, you can charge more.......where do you guys get this shit from?

each brand/biz has to take many factors into consideration before coming up with the proper price point for you. If one start up decide to sell for $10......go ahead, if another decides its best to come out the gate for $50...cool. Do what you feel is right for YOUR BRAND. 
granted this is true but we are talking about a tshirt here , I do agree each brand needs to take in factors in that benefit there business, and honestly in this case I don't see the attraction here, and It does not seem worth 42$
Jun 08, 2013 @ 22:27
New to hypebeast and just found out about this thread. I recently released my second drop for my brand, The MSTRPLAN, and would love to get some feedback. Feel free to check the store and website and let me know what you guys think, and what I can improve on. Thanks!
-MSTRMIND
http://www.themstrplan.com 
http://www.store.themstrplan.com 



I dig this release my favorite is the Charlie brown one. I forget the kids name though
Jun 08, 2013 @ 22:37
New to hypebeast and just found out about this thread. I recently released my second drop for my brand, The MSTRPLAN, and would love to get some feedback. Feel free to check the store and website and let me know what you guys think, and what I can improve on. Thanks!
-MSTRMIND
http://www.themstrplan.com 
http://www.store.themstrplan.com 



might have to cop all three of these
Jun 08, 2013 @ 23:48
His name's Pigpen and I'll be copping a tee or two.

"I keep myself so lifted I'm accustom to new heights."

Jun 09, 2013 @ 00:48
about pricing....

it really has nothing to do with how new your brand is. 
some of you have some strange notion that if you are new, you need to charge $15 bucks for your tee...and as you grow, you can charge more.......where do you guys get this shit from?

each brand/biz has to take many factors into consideration before coming up with the proper price point for you. If one start up decide to sell for $10......go ahead, if another decides its best to come out the gate for $50...cool. Do what you feel is right for YOUR BRAND. 
granted this is true but we are talking about a tshirt here , I do agree each brand needs to take in factors in that benefit there business, and honestly in this case I don't see the attraction here, and It does not seem worth 42$
well ive been taking criticism pretty well all week. i guess my response to you is umm get it if you want. umm if you dont want to thats your decision you have free will. Every brand prices their items differently, just because Chanel prices their stuff differently than Dolce & Gabbana doesnt mean Chanel is wrong. No, thats Chanel's products so they price it according to what direction they want to move in. We're moving in a new direction so the price just shifted. If you havent followed us from the beginning we've been improving slightly since we came out last November, we're just continuing to grow. That being said, support MSTRPLAN and buy up their shirts, best of luck to you and MSTRPLAN. 

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 07:20
New to hypebeast and just found out about this thread. I recently released my second drop for my brand, The MSTRPLAN, and would love to get some feedback. Feel free to check the store and website and let me know what you guys think, and what I can improve on. Thanks!
-MSTRMIND
http://www.themstrplan.com 
http://www.store.themstrplan.com 



might have to cop all three of these
Thanks for the kind words Brave, je-sus, JStorm, and fosace. The dude's name is "Pig-Pen", so I think it's perfect for him to be parodied into a cop haha.

And if any of you guys are on the fence on coppin', feel free to use the code "TMPOPS" for a cool 20% off

As for the whole cost thing, at the end of the day you charge what you want. I'm a new brand, my fan base is small; to me, profit isn't as important now as getting word and product out and a lower price range allows for that.

Thanks for the luck, I wish the best for you and your brand too.

Trust The MSTRPLAN | www.themstrplan.com /// Trust MSTRMIND | www.mstrmind.com

Jun 09, 2013 @ 11:42
"just because you CAN charge $60 bucks for a tee, doesn't mean you SHOULD"

-NOT TRUE

no tee is actually WORTH $60...
no brand HAS TO charge $60....yeh i know that some are luxury brands, and have celebrity clientele and marketing.....

but they DO NOT HAVE TO charge that much. but they do...and people pay it.

the only justification you need for charging insane amounts for any product is.....customers that will pay it.
Jun 09, 2013 @ 11:48
I saw a show about people abusing the word "Artisan" by adding it to the product, giving off the impression that its hand made skillfully crafted goods.

this one guy was using a razor blade and hand sharpening basic #2 pencils....and selling them for $35

his only real justification for selling 3 cent pencils for $35 was.....people where buying them.
Jun 09, 2013 @ 15:32
about pricing....

it really has nothing to do with how new your brand is. 
some of you have some strange notion that if you are new, you need to charge $15 bucks for your tee...and as you grow, you can charge more.......where do you guys get this shit from?

each brand/biz has to take many factors into consideration before coming up with the proper price point for you. If one start up decide to sell for $10......go ahead, if another decides its best to come out the gate for $50...cool. Do what you feel is right for YOUR BRAND. 
granted this is true but we are talking about a tshirt here , I do agree each brand needs to take in factors in that benefit there business, and honestly in this case I don't see the attraction here, and It does not seem worth 42$
well ive been taking criticism pretty well all week. i guess my response to you is umm get it if you want. umm if you dont want to thats your decision you have free will. Every brand prices their items differently, just because Chanel prices their stuff differently than Dolce & Gabbana doesnt mean Chanel is wrong. No, thats Chanel's products so they price it according to what direction they want to move in. We're moving in a new direction so the price just shifted. If you havent followed us from the beginning we've been improving slightly since we came out last November, we're just continuing to grow. That being said, support MSTRPLAN and buy up their shirts, best of luck to you and MSTRPLAN. 
LMAO bruh that basketball connection you tried to make was a reach. But anyways price your stuff however you want to. The pricing reflects how you value your brand, plain and simple. If you feel you have that brand image and following to have people pay $42 for it, go for it. No one here should stop you, cause at the end of the day this is your brand and decision. All the people legitimately upset about the pricing of your brand need to relax cause it's not their call and all they're doing is giving you free promotion. This topic has dominated the last 2-3 pages and pretty sure niggas won't let this die down smh. Also, pricing of a product DOES NOT equate to the quality of the product all the time. Saying hip-hop artists won't rep a $15 because of the price isn't true because there are plenty of brands with cheaply priced tees that have literally every artist repping. It's all about if they think it's dope.

SHOP: http://www.apollolifestyle.bigcartel.com FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/apollolifestyle

Jun 09, 2013 @ 15:37
Since the recent designs we have released and the criticism we got on here has made us rethink everything about the brand and scratched every design we made. I felt really terrible because we had such a nice brand name and thought we had potential. I didn't know what to do, but last week me and my friend met up with a designer name Shayne Oliver who we did not know was the designer for HBA (hood by air.) We later figured out and were surprised, so we tried to set up a meeting with Shayne and great fully he had time when he was in L.A yesterday to help us. He hooked us up with a textile designer in L.A. and we have been going and coming from her studio and one of our first pieces are bout to be done. Since everything designed on a shirt has been done for a while now, we are trying to move away from the font and text designs and focusing on the more Cut and Sew for our brand which creates a little originality that seemed we did not have. I will try to update on the whole progress but thanks for the HB users that helped me see that and it just created a path we thought we could never find. I hope the new AXCIE will be way better and hope you all can see that as well. 
Good for you guys but cut and sew doesn't really mean original since every other brand is on that wave lol. I hope you guys do come up with some dope shit though. The Yeezus album tee is kinda corny, but you guys will get $$$ from it. Honestly it doesn't matter cause we all know there are going to be 34241221432231 "yeezus" tees on spreadshirt, ya'll just beat everyone to it.

SHOP: http://www.apollolifestyle.bigcartel.com FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/apollolifestyle

Jun 09, 2013 @ 15:46
I feel like some people need to realize not to be so offended by people's critiques on here. You will probably never meet face to face and if your brand is selling, fuck what people on here say. If you have the passion and drive then you will succeed in the industry, literally that's all you need. HB is somewhat valuable in getting feedback because there are so many heads who are passionate about their brands and some give great feedback, but at the same time you can't the opinions of a few people control your brand. It's pretty obvious who's here for the money and who gives a fuck. Truth is a lot of you guys just starting out won't get far cause you're not researching the info on the web and on previous posts on here. If you're this clueless, just stop since it isn't for you. You won't become Diamond, Stussy, Supreme or even Pyrex overnight. You have to think ahead of the curve and realize that it takes work. I'm not gonna act like my brand is hot shit, but I'm trying to get it to where it needs to be and turn heads. Good luck to everyone and keep grinding

SHOP: http://www.apollolifestyle.bigcartel.com FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/apollolifestyle

Jun 09, 2013 @ 15:52
If I may put my input into this. The only thing that is remarkable is that you put $15 for your first shirts so like your previous customers and the fan base you made with your previous clothes would think it would be around that $15-$25 range for the next drop. Then you up the price to over than 200% increase which is really a lot for such a simple tee. We understand that you worked hard but to be honest no one wears a shirt because the designer worked hard. I don't see whats the problem with going with $20, we could make at least $800 (profit) if you sold only 50 of these. And since the design is so small, you could put more like 20 designs on one transfer (which cost 2.20 if you order 15). You'd probably make more money selling the shirts at $25 than putting it at $42.
Ok good morning everyone, hope everyone here on hb is having a great saturday. To be honest those brands that place their prices at $20 yea they make a profit are they moving forward. Are they putting their standards low and just satisfied with making a profit. I think you should put your standards high and yea you may have a shift in customers but you gain a different kind of clientele. Here's a great example. Lets say SpaceGhostPurrp or some other rapper like Kendrick came to my shop right. And my stuff was as cheap as the She Saw Everything LS shirt was on our last drop. People swore up and down that they loved it but I dont think SpaceGhostPurrp would buy a tee thats $15 bucks and be seen in it. He's got a rep believe it or not. Same thing with Kendrick Lemar, if he stumbles upon your website and he likes your concepts and stuff and what your brand stands for he's gonna support a new upcoming independent brand.....if you're confident in your stuff and your price is up there with the bigger guys, not with the people satisfied with charging $20 for their stuff...we're moving in a new direction thats all
Interesting idea, I guess we'll all eventually see whether or not it works out for you.

Also, you still got any of those She Saw Everything shirts left? Had it in my 'To Cop' list for a while.

hot water

Jun 09, 2013 @ 17:24
Jun 09, 2013 @ 19:21
If I may put my input into this. The only thing that is remarkable is that you put $15 for your first shirts so like your previous customers and the fan base you made with your previous clothes would think it would be around that $15-$25 range for the next drop. Then you up the price to over than 200% increase which is really a lot for such a simple tee. We understand that you worked hard but to be honest no one wears a shirt because the designer worked hard. I don't see whats the problem with going with $20, we could make at least $800 (profit) if you sold only 50 of these. And since the design is so small, you could put more like 20 designs on one transfer (which cost 2.20 if you order 15). You'd probably make more money selling the shirts at $25 than putting it at $42.
Ok good morning everyone, hope everyone here on hb is having a great saturday. To be honest those brands that place their prices at $20 yea they make a profit are they moving forward. Are they putting their standards low and just satisfied with making a profit. I think you should put your standards high and yea you may have a shift in customers but you gain a different kind of clientele. Here's a great example. Lets say SpaceGhostPurrp or some other rapper like Kendrick came to my shop right. And my stuff was as cheap as the She Saw Everything LS shirt was on our last drop. People swore up and down that they loved it but I dont think SpaceGhostPurrp would buy a tee thats $15 bucks and be seen in it. He's got a rep believe it or not. Same thing with Kendrick Lemar, if he stumbles upon your website and he likes your concepts and stuff and what your brand stands for he's gonna support a new upcoming independent brand.....if you're confident in your stuff and your price is up there with the bigger guys, not with the people satisfied with charging $20 for their stuff...we're moving in a new direction thats all
Interesting idea, I guess we'll all eventually see whether or not it works out for you.

Also, you still got any of those She Saw Everything shirts left? Had it in my 'To Cop' list for a while.
naa they all sold out, umm they should be coming out early 2014. To specify we're re-releasing the long sleeves. I dont know exactly which ones you liked. Me personally I hated the short sleeve ones. So those ones we wont be re-releasing, but the LS ones were a big hit so we'll do kinda like a Marshall Law colorway. Something yellow and black..

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 19:36
granted this is true but we are talking about a tshirt here , I do agree each brand needs to take in factors in that benefit there business, and honestly in this case I don't see the attraction here, and It does not seem worth 42$
well ive been taking criticism pretty well all week. i guess my response to you is umm get it if you want. umm if you dont want to thats your decision you have free will. Every brand prices their items differently, just because Chanel prices their stuff differently than Dolce & Gabbana doesnt mean Chanel is wrong. No, thats Chanel's products so they price it according to what direction they want to move in. We're moving in a new direction so the price just shifted. If you havent followed us from the beginning we've been improving slightly since we came out last November, we're just continuing to grow. That being said, support MSTRPLAN and buy up their shirts, best of luck to you and MSTRPLAN. 
LMAO bruh that basketball connection you tried to make was a reach. But anyways price your stuff however you want to. The pricing reflects how you value your brand, plain and simple. If you feel you have that brand image and following to have people pay $42 for it, go for it. No one here should stop you, cause at the end of the day this is your brand and decision. All the people legitimately upset about the pricing of your brand need to relax cause it's not their call and all they're doing is giving you free promotion. This topic has dominated the last 2-3 pages and pretty sure niggas won't let this die down smh. Also, pricing of a product DOES NOT equate to the quality of the product all the time. Saying hip-hop artists won't rep a $15 because of the price isn't true because there are plenty of brands with cheaply priced tees that have literally every artist repping. It's all about if they think it's dope.
thats true but lets be honest here, all hip hop artist or remotely popular people dont like to wear really cheap stuff because after awhile they have a standard thats set. They get more money and like to buy quality things because they are receiving more blessings. This is my opinion. Yes they may want to buy your stuff if its cheap but are they going to pull out their wallet if its $15 bucks or even $10 bucks. For that matter would you even pull out your wallet to type in all of that info for a $10 shirt. Ok maybe $10 is reaching but we're moving in a new direction and the price is moving forward as well. how do you think that Supreme magically started charging $388 for a leopard print sweater, now I know I'm talking about the best brand now and they have 20 years under their belt. But they eventually had to increase their price. Slowly but surely we're doing the same thing. Because Supreme thinks thats what their product should sell at because of what went into that product to put it out, thats the same mentality we're having because we want to be the best so we have to have the same mindset as the better brands...its just moving forward thats all...but we're gonna come out with some really cool shit as we move forward for our fans so we dont just let them down either ya know...thats it.

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 19:47
"just because you CAN charge $60 bucks for a tee, doesn't mean you SHOULD"

-NOT TRUE

no tee is actually WORTH $60...
no brand HAS TO charge $60....yeh i know that some are luxury brands, and have celebrity clientele and marketing.....

but they DO NOT HAVE TO charge that much. but they do...and people pay it.

the only justification you need for charging insane amounts for any product is.....customers that will pay it.
wassup wassup, i guess you dont have to but these brands that just say fuck it we're charging $____. Those brands have confidence in their product, in their brand and they feel as if the cost of the experience to put the item out, the cost of the money put into the product to put it out, the cost of the promo, etc etc. should be all included and there's your price. Bape is confident, Supreme, etc. all of the bigger brands have confidence in their stuff. You eventually have to turn the curve if you want to be on top of this list and solidify your throne. You have to have confidence. Dont stay in this dungeon of brands that are scared to take a risk. Because you'll die there. You gotta move forward price wise, design wise, quality wise.  Price is only one element that we changed, the quality of the tee is better as well. Those bigger brands you're right they dont have to charge it but the real fashion heads know exactly why they charge a higher price. Its cause if so many people have Bape then that would make it less sought after cause so many people have it...So you gotta keep it sought after for the true Bape fiends that like to wear exclusive stuff..

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 19:59
simple teeOk good morning everyone, hope everyone here on hb is having a great saturday. To be honest those brands that place their prices at $20 yea they make a profit are they moving forward. Are they putting their standards low and just satisfied with making a profit. I think you should put your standards high and yea you may have a shift in customers but you gain a different kind of clientele. Here's a great example. Lets say SpaceGhostPurrp or some other rapper like Kendrick came to my shop right. And my stuff was as cheap as the She Saw Everything LS shirt was on our last drop. People swore up and down that they loved it but I dont think SpaceGhostPurrp would buy a tee thats $15 bucks and be seen in it. He's got a rep believe it or not. Same thing with Kendrick Lemar, if he stumbles upon your website and he likes your concepts and stuff and what your brand stands for he's gonna support a new upcoming independent brand.....if you're confident in your stuff and your price is up there with the bigger guys, not with the people satisfied with charging $20 for their stuff...we're moving in a new direction thats all
Interesting idea, I guess we'll all eventually see whether or not it works out for you.

Also, you still got any of those She Saw Everything shirts left? Had it in my 'To Cop' list for a while.
naa they all sold out, umm they should be coming out early 2014. To specify we're re-releasing the long sleeves. I dont know exactly which ones you liked. Me personally I hated the short sleeve ones. So those ones we wont be re-releasing, but the LS ones were a big hit so we'll do kinda like a Marshall Law colorway. Something yellow and black..
Damn, I was wanting one of the short sleeves.

hot water

Jun 09, 2013 @ 20:44
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Jun 09, 2013 @ 20:47
Originally posted by Inactive User
got you guys on IG , good luck with the brand homie
Jun 09, 2013 @ 20:50
@fosace Hopefully your shirts do well, I mean that. But, I really really hope you have great customer service and ship out your products in a timely manner and charge the right amount for shipping. None of that $10 to ship out a shirt bs because it literally cost less than $3 using a scale, your own mailers, and creating your own shipping labels via PayPal. Sometimes just having that excellent customer service and actually shipping people's products out can make a huge difference and will result in repeat customers. Not trying to take shots at people but look at freedminds thread or networks. Majority of the people are asking where their stuff is like "I spent $100 on a crewneck and it's been 4 months, I don't have it yet" type stuff. Not saying you are like that nor that's the way you run things but you should always keep the customer first when it comes to getting them their products. Without those orders you will go no where. Even if it's 1 a week or 20 a week. Shit, this goes out to everyone reading this actually. 

http://thedividedminds.com/

Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:04
@fosace Hopefully your shirts do well, I mean that. But, I really really hope you have great customer service and ship out your products in a timely manner and charge the right amount for shipping. None of that $10 to ship out a shirt bs because it literally cost less than $3 using a scale, your own mailers, and creating your own shipping labels via PayPal. Sometimes just having that excellent customer service and actually shipping people's products out can make a huge difference and will result in repeat customers. Not trying to take shots at people but look at freedminds thread or networks. Majority of the people are asking where their stuff is like "I spent $100 on a crewneck and it's been 4 months, I don't have it yet" type stuff. Not saying you are like that nor that's the way you run things but you should always keep the customer first when it comes to getting them their products. Without those orders you will go no where. Even if it's 1 a week or 20 a week. Shit, this goes out to everyone reading this actually. 
this is the realest shit ive ever heard in my life bruh. You're exactly right, you're keeping it raw and real. Some of the big independent brands dont send your shit til 2 months later. By that time you brought something else from them. Its a two month cycle. We ship our stuff the next day cuz we're still sleeping on the floor. Hell imma keep it real like you kept it real. Im sitting on the floor right now typing this message, we strive to always ship it literally the next morning after you ordered it or at least the next day. Customer service goes a long way man, its always in the back of a customers minds when their purchasing stuff from you..stay humble and get up in the morning and ship it out.

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:07
@fosace don't worry about it. Pick a price range and stick to it.

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Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:08
simple teeLS shirtInteresting idea, I guess we'll all eventually see whether or not it works out for you.

Also, you still got any of those She Saw Everything shirts left? Had it in my 'To Cop' list for a while.
naa they all sold out, umm they should be coming out early 2014. To specify we're re-releasing the long sleeves. I dont know exactly which ones you liked. Me personally I hated the short sleeve ones. So those ones we wont be re-releasing, but the LS ones were a big hit so we'll do kinda like a Marshall Law colorway. Something yellow and black..
Damn, I was wanting one of the short sleeves.
dang you would say that lol, what color of the ones did you like? If you say white we mayyyy come back out with it. I kinda wanted to destroy the screens since I hated them so much. The guy who prints are stuff printed the eyes on the short sleeves waayyy to big, his ol dumb ass, but the long sleeves are definitely re-releasing early 2014.

http://www.trialsandtriumph.com | Several different stories|

Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:10
@fosace don't worry about it. Pick a price range and stick to it.
thanks man

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Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:44
Went to some crazy ran down warehouse earlier today with the team. Shot our Summer '13 look book. New collection releases Friday June 14th.


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Jun 09, 2013 @ 21:48
@fosace respect on taking the next move with your price hope it works out for you homie

http://www.dangerers.bigcartel.com

Jun 09, 2013 @ 22:51
do you guys know if Van Styles put that hat on Kendrick's head or if Kendrick bought it himself?

WTB: Supreme Vagina Tee White XL

Jun 09, 2013 @ 22:55
@fosace respect on taking the next move with your price hope it works out for you homie
thanks @dangerers

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