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November 19, 2012 @ 05:32 AM
timk125

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all very kitschy


@qrct1 All these designs are original and come from my taste in clothing. I don't bite designs and everything here has its own meaning. Not very kitschy unless you consider this genre of streetwear closed to any new brands


Those crosses and V's for A's remind me of Black Scale/ASAP and Givenchy. Not super original.

Granted you're not the only one doing the A's for V's thing, I'm just saying.
November 19, 2012 @ 05:40 AM
timk125

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Hey guys I've been getting some thumbs down lately and I wanna get some detailed feedback on what you all think. Hit me up

Hey guys my name is Jarrel Sylvers and I'm the owner of the new Chicago streetwear/lifestyle brand Afloat Co. Clothing. Big ups to all the brands and I look forward to contributing a lot to the forums. Check out these images from brand, give me some feedback, and check out afloatcoclothing.com for critiques

Thanks in advance guys



The name kind of confuses me. Afloat Company Clothing? Company seems unnecessary to me.

Do the triangles mean anything? I love the logo, it's super simple and would look really clean if you took out Co. Clothing on the bottom completely.

I like the first crewneck a lot as well.

I know I cut out all of your photos, it's nothing personal I just hate when people quote long posts and you have to scroll through a bunch of pictures.
November 19, 2012 @ 05:40 AM
icecreamkate

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Location: New York, New York

All this streetwear is played out. It's not saying anything and it doesn't stand for anything. Think about how your line relates to the consumers you're targeting.

We rule the underground.

November 19, 2012 @ 05:52 AM
UnlimitedSusNiqqa

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Wouldnt buy anything from 24/25 of these so called "brands"

lol at how flooded this market is, not to mention the established brands
November 19, 2012 @ 06:29 AM
swefn

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swefn

November 19, 2012 @ 10:02 AM
teddyroll

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@twincolumn The 5 panel seems to be the most original to me; leather strap is dope. Snapback - 40oz van. T-Shirts - Givenchy/Spaceghostpurrp. I feel the the dark/satanic vibe is starting to get a bit played out but thats just my opinion.
November 19, 2012 @ 12:38 PM
Argot Alexa

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Location: North Carolina

@twincolumn I think your pieces are very well executed. Although i think they may be somewhat unoriginal, that fact hass never stopped any other brand from being successful!

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November 19, 2012 @ 03:12 PM
twincolumn

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@twincolumn The 5 panel seems to be the most original to me; leather strap is dope. Snapback - 40oz van. T-Shirts - Givenchy/Spaceghostpurrp. I feel the the dark/satanic vibe is starting to get a bit played out but thats just my opinion.


@teddyroll Thanks on the 5panels, I had the snapback design before 40oz van dropped his- so I was hella pissed, especially since he's kept going with the Balmain font.

The Cross shirts are based off Givenchy. If you read in my discussion thread, I wanted to make a piece that used a very common motif (crosses) and mix it with something that was supposed to be "exclusive" and "luxury". (something not so common).

I work with Raider Klan, so I take a lot of inspiration from them. So thats maybe why you see some SGP in there.

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November 19, 2012 @ 03:15 PM
twincolumn

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All this streetwear is played out. It's not saying anything and it doesn't stand for anything. Think about how your line relates to the consumers you're targeting.


I am usually fine with constructive criticism, comments like these really bug me. "It doesnt stand for anything" Yes it does @icecreamkate , and I find it kind of funny that you would say something like that while being totally ignorant of the brand, Everything of mine has meaning.

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November 19, 2012 @ 03:17 PM
twincolumn

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all very kitschy


@qrct1 All these designs are original and come from my taste in clothing. I don't bite designs and everything here has its own meaning. Not very kitschy unless you consider this genre of streetwear closed to any new brands


Those crosses and V's for A's remind me of Black Scale/ASAP and Givenchy. Not super original.

Granted you're not the only one doing the A's for V's thing, I'm just saying.


@timk125 You can see that those designs are a Raider Klan collab. Those are Raider Klan Hieroglyphics. V's stand for U's and A's. X's stand for E's and O's.

So it's not Black Scale/ASAP, quite the opposite since they are beefing

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November 19, 2012 @ 03:28 PM
twincolumn

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I think it's the fact that this is the "New Brands" Thread, that everyone is looking at these brands in a negative light. Since they are already established as a "New Brand" by being in this thread, anyone that comes and looks at these are automatically going to think "Unoriginal" "Biting this brand, biting this brand" "This has no meaning"

How do you know that these are unoriginal, or have no meaning, when you have known the brand for literally 5 seconds before making a post/judgement on it?

Twin Column has a very rich background story and every garment has a meaning behind it- the post would be huge if I took the time to explain each garment posted. I will probably stop posting in this thread because I can already tell it's not the right vibe. Too many poorly based opinions.

My advice to any new brands posting after this, if it's selling out quick- you must be doing something right.

TwinColumn.com @TwinColumnCult Facebook.com/TwinColumn

November 19, 2012 @ 03:31 PM
princeandprez

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I think it's the fact that this is the "New Brands" Thread, that everyone is looking at these brands in a negative light. Since they are already established as a "New Brand" by being in this thread, anyone that comes and looks at these are automatically going to think "Unoriginal" "Biting this brand, biting this brand" "This has no meaning"

How do you know that these are unoriginal, or have no meaning, when you have known the brand for literally 5 seconds before making a post/judgement on it?

Twin Column has a very rich background story and every garment has a meaning behind it- the post would be huge if I took the time to explain each garment posted. I will probably stop posting in this thread because I can already tell it's not the right vibe. Too many poorly based opinions.

My advice to any new brands posting after this, if it's selling out quick- you must be doing something right.


People like you who get too defensive are the ones who make this thread so hostile..

Find us at www.princessesandpresidents.com

November 19, 2012 @ 03:34 PM
ndiao

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BSH its nice shirt
November 19, 2012 @ 03:37 PM
twincolumn

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@princeandprez As I said in my previous posts, I'm totally fine with constructive criticism. But when people say that these design have no meaning, that's just not true. That bugs the hell out of me.

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November 19, 2012 @ 04:32 PM
al dente co.

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Location: MIAMI

can't we all just get along?

if it don't apply let it fly....

at the end of the day, fuck what anyone says. if you believe in yourself and brand, it'll work out. this is why most people give up and don't become successful, bc they're insecure or worried about what people say.

you think people automatically fucked with these established brands? no, they didn't. but those brands beleived in themselves enough to stay consistent and make a name for themselves.


people say I bit my skull bunny logo, or my shirts have no depth, or i'm trying to hard. man, fuck that. i know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it.

negetivity is just something that gets thrown in the way of weak people to stop them from reaching they're goal. if you can get passed the nay-sayers and idiots who get on this thread and talk shit to you. you'll be fine.

remember this is hypebeasts, half these kids only wear what they see the mass wearing.

al dente company // aldenteco.com

November 19, 2012 @ 04:33 PM
twincolumn

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@aldenteco Word bruh, that's what i'm saying. Well put.

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November 19, 2012 @ 05:07 PM
al dente co.

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@twincolumn - if what you do works for you, then run with it. I only make shirt i like and would wear. plain and simple.

al dente company // aldenteco.com

November 19, 2012 @ 05:14 PM
twincolumn

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@twincolumn - if what you do works for you, then run with it. I only make shirt i like and would wear. plain and simple.


@aldenteco That's my exact philosophy on designing. I design what I want to wear and what I wish was being released from other brands. I don't follow trends and I certainly don't design for trends. I think this is one of the main reasons for my success so far. Only ~8 months in but I am getting 7+ orders a week. Real Recognize Real.. I just do me

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November 19, 2012 @ 05:30 PM
timk125

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all very kitschy


@qrct1 All these designs are original and come from my taste in clothing. I don't bite designs and everything here has its own meaning. Not very kitschy unless you consider this genre of streetwear closed to any new brands


Those crosses and V's for A's remind me of Black Scale/ASAP and Givenchy. Not super original.

Granted you're not the only one doing the A's for V's thing, I'm just saying.


@timk125 You can see that those designs are a Raider Klan collab. Those are Raider Klan Hieroglyphics. V's stand for U's and A's. X's stand for E's and O's.

So it's not Black Scale/ASAP, quite the opposite since they are beefing


Fair enough. I just don't think it's right to say that you designs are original when you said later some of it is based of Givenchy.

I'm not hating on your brand, I like the cross shirts, I'm just (hopefully) giving my constructive criticism.
November 19, 2012 @ 05:34 PM
twincolumn

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@timk125 I get where you are coming from on that. I wasn't trying to make a 100% original tee when I made the Cross tee, but I was not trying to copy Givenchy either. I was trying to make more of a play on it, showing they aren't worth $300/tee when I am selling mine for $30. I'm actually on my last restock for the Cross Shirts though, I've had three cycles already.. people just keep asking for them.

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November 19, 2012 @ 05:38 PM
timk125

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@twincolumn I definitely wasn't trying to say you were copying them, you're obviously not or you'd have stars around the collar.

Hey, as long as they're selling who gives a shit what people think. Congrats on the success.
November 19, 2012 @ 05:41 PM
twincolumn

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@timk125 Thanks G. Some other dude had made a comment early about how all my shit is "Kitschy", I was trying to address that issue as well.

Rocksmith "Ninja Star Tee" is Kitschy. Not my shit, my Cross Neck still has elegance to it. Rocksmith even used the same amount of stars as Givenchy.

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November 19, 2012 @ 06:02 PM
jarrelsylvers

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Location: Chicago, Illinois

@timk125 thanks for the advice man. I definitely was thinking about taking the co. out, and I feel you on some of the other stuff as well. I'm learning and growing man so if you have anymore critiques hit me up!

afloatcoclothing.com l @AfloatCo l afloatcoclothing.tumblr.com

November 19, 2012 @ 06:06 PM
jarrelsylvers

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@timk125 and the triangle was modeled after the sail of a boat. I wanted to do something minimalistic that still had slight nautical theme.

afloatcoclothing.com l @AfloatCo l afloatcoclothing.tumblr.com

November 19, 2012 @ 06:13 PM
twincolumn

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Anyways, if any of you fuckin' with me, you can follow me on Twitter: @TwinColumnCult 6,800 other people fuckin' with me on that.

I answer tweets/questions rather quickly, and post other information regarding releases, garments, my thoughts and so on. I'm much more active on Twitter than Hypebeast.

Webstore: TwinColumn.com

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November 19, 2012 @ 06:14 PM
timk125

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@jarrelsylvers Oh okay. I can see that now. That's dope.
November 19, 2012 @ 06:31 PM
jarrelsylvers

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Location: Chicago, Illinois

@timk125 Thanks homie

afloatcoclothing.com l @AfloatCo l afloatcoclothing.tumblr.com

November 19, 2012 @ 07:08 PM
wcfrontrvnners

Post: 346

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Location: Hayward, Ca

can't we all just get along?

if it don't apply let it fly....

at the end of the day, fuck what anyone says. if you believe in yourself and brand, it'll work out. this is why most people give up and don't become successful, bc they're insecure or worried about what people say.

you think people automatically fucked with these established brands? no, they didn't. but those brands beleived in themselves enough to stay consistent and make a name for themselves.


people say I bit my skull bunny logo, or my shirts have no depth, or i'm trying to hard. man, fuck that. i know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it.

negetivity is just something that gets thrown in the way of weak people to stop them from reaching they're goal. if you can get passed the nay-sayers and idiots who get on this thread and talk shit to you. you'll be fine.

remember this is hypebeasts, half these kids only wear what they see the mass wearing.

Amen to you and @twincolumn . I can't agree more with what y'all have been saying.

WCFRVS.COM INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: WCFRONTRVNNERS ; JJFRNTRVNNERS

November 19, 2012 @ 07:30 PM
wcfrontrvnners

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I hate how people are so caught up on black scale being the only "dark" brand that's ever existed. It's probably one of the most successful but if you look back into goth and metal rock fashion in the past, demonic designs have been around for a long time. Just take a trip to Hot Topic.

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November 19, 2012 @ 07:41 PM
twincolumn

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I hate how people are so caught up on black scale being the only "dark" brand that's ever existed. It's probably one of the most successful but if you look back into goth and metal rock fashion in the past, demonic designs have been around for a long time. Just take a trip to Hot Topic.


@wcfrontrvnners Thank you, someone else has said it. That's definitively been my biggest problem so far, but as my fan base grows it has become less of an issue. Without trying to look any deeper, a lot of people have dismissed my work because they think I'm biting or jumping on a trend. But even now, I find new "dark" brands that are very popular and don't bite style.

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