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September 12, 2012 @ 01:23 AM
al dente co.

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WHOEVER PAYS THAT "STILLWILD" ASSHOLE ANY ATTENTION IS STOOPING DOWN TO HIS LEVEL. IGNORE THE KID AND LET'S GET BACK TO WHAT WE ALL CAME TO THIS THREAD FOR.



THIS NAPOLEON SYNDROME INSECURE IGNORANT EXCUSE FOR A CHILD IS FUCKING UP THE FORUM FOR US.





It's already been done fam, after taking a look at his website I felt bad for him lol.


HAHA... YO, CONGRATS ON YOUR SUCCESS BTW.

I STARTED OFF DOING SHIT WITH SNEAKERS BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF BASKETBALL SHOES (LOVE CLASSIC RUNNERS) SO I STOPPED CATERING TO THE SNEAKER DROPS....

CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WE DID A WHILE BACK...

http://vimeo.com/17072063

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:23 AM
ricosway

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What do you guys think of the name BTRSTK or Butterstickinc. for a clothing line?


I'd go with Butterstickinc but use BTRSTK for promotional tee's, a second domain for your website, etc...

Our brand name is Sole Individual but we use SNDVL for the uses above.

Good luck on your brand homie!
September 12, 2012 @ 01:26 AM
bradenjust

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What do you guys think of the name BTRSTK or Butterstickinc. for a clothing line?


I'd go with Butterstickinc but use BTRSTK for promotional tee's, a second domain for your website, etc...

Our brand name is Sole Individual but we use SNDVL for the uses above.

Good luck on your brand homie!


thanks dude. I have had this brand for over two years but it just always get ripped on by kids who turn it into perverted saying and thats really the only reason i am thinking about changing it.

Im thinking about changing it to JUST.FUN brand. What do you think about that name vs the Butterstickinc.

Follow me on instagram @bradenjust MM White size XL for sale.

September 12, 2012 @ 01:26 AM
awhitehippy

Post: 551

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Location: Lost Angeles

Everyone wants to be a trendsetter with a movement, but no one wants to start a trend.
The premise of a good and successful, but even more sustainable business -- an idea that hasn't already been done.
To fill a need.

Half of these brands on this thread?

Half-baked. If you wanna do it for just the money that's cool. But don't expect any longevity as long as you look EXACTLY other brands -- the only thing separating you then, price.

I can't express how annoyed I am, EVERYTIME I read a brand's about.

"BLAH, we want to start a movement" (well what is itconfused

"Our movement is..." (enter FIFTY different, UNRELATED subjects, in an attempt to capture A HUGE MARKET THAT YOU ULTIMATELY CANNOT SERVE WELL, imagine if McDonalds tried to serve gourmet cuisine alongside a Mcwhopper. Exactly).

Stop calling your shit a lifestyle, if your answer to WHAT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE is, any form or variation of this.

That's not a lifestyle.


word up. there's really no originality in brands now a days. upcoming brands taking the supreme box logo and changing the text to their brand name, talking about how "their different" but really not. ripping off designs from others, and all this other stuff. brands are following trends and doing what others do, which isn't part of being successful. yea you'll probably sell out in clothes, but really you're just selling out. cause what's a brand with no originality?

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:35 AM
ricosway

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WHOEVER PAYS THAT "STILLWILD" ASSHOLE ANY ATTENTION IS STOOPING DOWN TO HIS LEVEL. IGNORE THE KID AND LET'S GET BACK TO WHAT WE ALL CAME TO THIS THREAD FOR.



THIS NAPOLEON SYNDROME INSECURE IGNORANT EXCUSE FOR A CHILD IS FUCKING UP THE FORUM FOR US.





It's already been done fam, after taking a look at his website I felt bad for him lol.


HAHA... YO, CONGRATS ON YOUR SUCCESS BTW.

I STARTED OFF DOING SHIT WITH SNEAKERS BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF BASKETBALL SHOES (LOVE CLASSIC RUNNERS) SO I STOPPED CATERING TO THE SNEAKER DROPS....

CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WE DID A WHILE BACK...

http://vimeo.com/17072063


Thanks fam

ill visual from the model to music, definitely inspirational and gave me a few marketing ideas.

I feel you on the catering to sneaker drops, I'm going to continue to stay in this lane but do things different than before. At first I was doing drops for one particular sneaker so you know a t-shirt would sell for that particular moment while the hype for the sneaker is there and then sales will dwindle so now I'm staying in the sneaker lane but I'm doing universal shirts that you can rock with multiple sneakers rather than one and it'll give me the option to sell it throughout the season.

It's a lot to learn in the fashion business, I'm all ears homie. Definitely feeling the brand g.
September 12, 2012 @ 01:38 AM
stillwild

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Location: US

Everyone wants to be a trendsetter with a movement, but no one wants to start a trend.
The premise of a good and successful, but even more sustainable business -- an idea that hasn't already been done.
To fill a need.

Half of these brands on this thread?

Half-baked. If you wanna do it for just the money that's cool. But don't expect any longevity as long as you look EXACTLY other brands -- the only thing separating you then, price.

I can't express how annoyed I am, EVERYTIME I read a brand's about.

"BLAH, we want to start a movement" (well what is itconfused

"Our movement is..." (enter FIFTY different, UNRELATED subjects, in an attempt to capture A HUGE MARKET THAT YOU ULTIMATELY CANNOT SERVE WELL, imagine if McDonalds tried to serve gourmet cuisine alongside a Mcwhopper. Exactly).

Stop calling your shit a lifestyle, if your answer to WHAT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE is, any form or variation of this.

That's not a lifestyle.


brands are following trends and doing what others do, which isn't part of being successful. yea you'll probably sell out in clothes, but really you're just selling out. cause what's a brand with no originality?
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my thoughts exactly.
streetwear was started to be SUBVERSIVE to pop-culture, it was a culture all its own.
in fact to some purists, I'm sure if you EVEN LOOK LIKE MOST BRANDS, or are about trying to mainstream,
you've already failed.

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:40 AM
stillwild

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@aldenteco

really?
after all that, and then the lull of non-talking?
you decide to start posting again?
and it's equally ignorant.

this all started because you can't take constructive criticism.


I can't believe anyone in this thread has the nerve to call me immature and question my morals.

"brands are following trends and doing what others do, which isn't part of being successful. yea you'll probably sell out in clothes, but really you're just selling out. cause what's a brand with no originality?"

I pray you listen to this "kid".

I pray you step up your game, and you as well @ricosway.

When I drop my shit, I hope you're both willing to admit -- I'm Kobe and you're Linsanity, that shit don't last.

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:46 AM
rare01

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-Conclusion

Sure, You can call my brand whatever you want. lol
And no you don't need to describe yourself. Your work exceeds you g-whiz. I am sure the world sees what you are capable of too

Good luck with your rebranding. I am sure the concepts & products would be sooo mind blowing and you'll totally dominate here ( or anywhere ) comparing to everyone else's shitty unthoughtful brands

Think you should create a new thread on brands you're hating on since you are so literate at it. hahaha

Over & out
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September 12, 2012 @ 01:51 AM
stillwild

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-Conclusion

Sure, You can call my brand whatever you want. lol
And no you don't need to describe yourself. Your work exceeds you g-whiz. I am sure the world sees what you are capable of too

Good luck with your rebranding. I am sure the concepts & products would be sooo mind blowing and you'll totally dominate here ( or anywhere ) comparing to everyone else's shitty unthoughtful brands

Think you should create a new thread on brands you're hating on since you are so literate at it. hahaha

Over & out
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The same as for @ricosway and @aldenteco goes for you too.

Your brand is the same, and I pray you too -- when my shit drops, understand...
junior varsity don't want none of this.

But since my work "proceeds" me, you must already know what to expect hahaha.

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:52 AM
wcfrontrvnners

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Damn ya'll still arguing?

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:58 AM
awhitehippy

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I've gotten advice from many different successful brand owners, and they tell me many things i should avoid, and do. but one thing that they all say, that they never leave out, is ALWAYS be original. Did Huf become the brand they are today from stealing the box logo from supreme? Did stussy become the brand they are today from stealing the color schemes from obey? I haven't seen a brand who became successful from ripping off others ideas, so what's makes you think stealing other brands ideas will make YOU successful. These brands became successful for being unique and different, stussy for bringing a surfer/skater apparel, supreme for bringing in patterned hats, obey for bringing in street art and protest related issues. And especially johnny cupcakes, they sold their merchandise from suitcases, during shows. i mean how original is that. Originality is key in having a brand. Johnny once said, "If you're original, you'll never have competition."

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September 12, 2012 @ 01:58 AM
awhitehippy

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And these aren't arguments, these are tips for anyone who actually cares.

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September 12, 2012 @ 02:04 AM
rare01

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Damn ya'll still arguing?


Nah nothing to argue about man, dude's gonna drop an atomic bomb of soon. LOL best brand ever : )



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September 12, 2012 @ 02:04 AM
Bulldog

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If I may address the debate regarding originality...

Statistically, the likelihood of a small, home-based start-up clothing brand turning the collective streetwear scene towards a completely new trend is high unlikely. Can it happen? Absolutely, albeit rare. However, a brand does not need to revolutionize the industry to become successful. Originality itself can be viewed subjectively, and it certainly does not equal success. To be quite honest, originality in terms of trends is not even necessary for a brand to stay afloat. The cycle of trends dictate the direction of the fashion industry as a whole. This is a given. What it comes down to is, in my opinion, whether or not a brand reacts to trends in a tasteful way. For instance, the Native American-inspired pattern trend which surfaced a bit ago has been prevalent throughout recent seasons' collections and continues to be so for the immediate upcoming season as well. Some brands react to this trend by creating a homogenous, shallow nod towards the theme, born from the perceived obligation to absorb any and all fads which may spring up. I would consider this distasteful.... no brand should ever undertake an endeavor halfheartedly. Yet there are those who address such a fad in a manner that the brand's offering does not merely bow to the trend; rather, the trend itself becomes infused into their own personal style. Consider Benny Gold's Valencia Collection for one. Rather than throw up a bland rendition of a Navajo print shirt, Benny cleverly plays off the pattern and works it into his iconic paper airplane logo. That twist is what correlates to successful design, and in turn, a successful brand.

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September 12, 2012 @ 02:08 AM
lightworks1crew

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@lamash Nailed it

THE NAME OF THE GAME / www.lightworksclothing.com

September 12, 2012 @ 02:12 AM
rare01

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I've gotten advice from many different successful brand owners, and they tell me many things i should avoid, and do. but one thing that they all say, that they never leave out, is ALWAYS be original. Did Huf become the brand they are today from stealing the box logo from supreme? Did stussy become the brand they are today from stealing the color schemes from obey? I haven't seen a brand who became successful from ripping off others ideas, so what's makes you think stealing other brands ideas will make YOU successful. These brands became successful for being unique and different, stussy for bringing a surfer/skater apparel, supreme for bringing in patterned hats, obey for bringing in street art and protest related issues. And especially johnny cupcakes, they sold their merchandise from suitcases, during shows. i mean how original is that. Originality is key in having a brand. Johnny once said, "If you're original, you'll never have competition."


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September 12, 2012 @ 02:24 AM
stillwild

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I've gotten advice from many different successful brand owners, and they tell me many things i should avoid, and do. but one thing that they all say, that they never leave out, is ALWAYS be original. Did Huf become the brand they are today from stealing the box logo from supreme? Did stussy become the brand they are today from stealing the color schemes from obey? I haven't seen a brand who became successful from ripping off others ideas, so what's makes you think stealing other brands ideas will make YOU successful. These brands became successful for being unique and different, stussy for bringing a surfer/skater apparel, supreme for bringing in patterned hats, obey for bringing in street art and protest related issues. And especially johnny cupcakes, they sold their merchandise from suitcases, during shows. i mean how original is that. Originality is key in having a brand. Johnny once said, "If you're original, you'll never have competition."


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You're a joke.
This is the same thing I've been saying, literally.

I cannot stop laughing hahahaha.

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September 12, 2012 @ 02:26 AM
ricosway

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@aldenteco

really?
after all that, and then the lull of non-talking?
you decide to start posting again?
and it's equally ignorant.

this all started because you can't take constructive criticism.

Lol the funny thing about that hippy kid, is he's saying something to the notion
I can't believe anyone in this thread has the nerve to call me immature and question my morals.

"brands are following trends and doing what others do, which isn't part of being successful. yea you'll probably sell out in clothes, but really you're just selling out. cause what's a brand with no originality?"

I pray you listen to this "kid".

I pray you step up your game, and you as well @ricosway.

When I drop my shit, I hope you're both willing to admit -- I'm Kobe and you're Linsanity, that shit don't last.


What's funny is you're telling me to step up my game but you haven't experienced a percentage of the success I have. Instead of hating, grind! The reason why I didn't entertain that Hippy guy is because he has the same mind state as you. People love to talk about Supreme and the red box but I bet you both didn't know Nike was the first to start the red box with the white font, you fools.

I don't think of anyone else when we're making our designs, everything comes from my ideas. If my design reflects something I was inspired by then so be it. Who are you to tell me what to design? I respect constructive criticism but what you're doing is hating. What makes it annoying is the fact that you've experienced NO SUCCESS, you don't have nothing to show for this BRAND you're talking about.

Just shut up and do your own thing stop worrying about the next man. You guys literally want to see someone's brand not succeed because you can't get your brand off of the ground? That saids enough about your character.

I wish you well.
September 12, 2012 @ 02:30 AM
stillwild

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Consider Benny Gold's Valencia Collection for one. Rather than throw up a bland rendition of a Navajo print shirt, Benny cleverly plays off the pattern and works it into his iconic paper airplane logo. That twist is what correlates to successful design, and in turn, a successful brand.


There's no debating Benny's design skills, but...

Biased. If you're gonna be critical, be critical.

Benny's navajo pattern is the same as everyone else's basically.
His brand was already hyped and already successful.

Like karakter said awhile back, some people like him (and there are a lot out there), will buy ________ just because they're ____________.

Benny's valencia collection was by far his most disappointing (the only anything from I didn't buy anything from since I found out about B.G.).

AND NOT ONLY, did he sell out from making a whole collection based on this trend, HE SOLD OUT BY MAKING A REPRINT.

It disgusts me a bit that out of all of his designs, the one collection he reprints for is the most far from what his brand is.

Yes, it's essentially a brand about youth and design.

But what got me was B.G. even though they used the staple graphic t-shirt, etc. like everyone else -- it was always based around Benny's unique designs. For instance the "Works for Jerks" tee, how classic is that? Totally fits with his mantra.

This? Mainstreaming sellout goodness at it's best.

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September 12, 2012 @ 02:40 AM
stillwild

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@ricosway:

You have all these followers.
I'd be curious to know what percentage actually engages with you, and your comments.
From your twitter, it appears that about 1:8 is a mention from a customer, and the others are posts by you.
Yeah dude, success.
Same thing as your tumblr.

Sure, you have people "following" your "movement".

My success, it'll be dictated by the quality of what I put out, and the people who support it.

Quality over quantity.

Oh and by the way, creativity or inspiration is not completely ripping off something.

The raptors logo with "SNDVL", really? Like really?
A bulls logo with a caption? REALLY.

Someone worked hard on both those logos and you've essentially copy and pasted them, yeah dude, worked real hard.

STEP YOUR GAME UP.

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September 12, 2012 @ 02:46 AM
Ian x illany

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hahaha stillwild is going off on anyone who types anything right now

ILLANY! ~ @illanewyork ~ www.illanewyork.tumblr.com/

September 12, 2012 @ 02:54 AM
ricosway

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@ricosway:

You have all these followers.
I'd be curious to know what percentage actually engages with you, and your comments.
From your twitter, it appears that about 1:8 is a mention from a customer, and the others are posts by you.
Yeah dude, success.
Same thing as your tumblr.

Sure, you have people "following" your "movement".

My success, it'll be dictated by the quality of what I put out, and the people who support it.

Quality over quantity.

Oh and by the way, creativity or inspiration is not completely ripping off something.

The raptors logo with "SNDVL", really? Like really?
A bulls logo with a caption? REALLY.

Someone worked hard on both those logos and you've essentially copy and pasted them, yeah dude, worked real hard.

STEP YOUR GAME UP.


Lmao, look at the average amount of "comments" we receive on our pictures on Instagram not even likes lol. That should tell you enough. This is where you're confused, unless you're huge you're not going to get customers comments on Twitter all day. Like I said I'm a new brand so majority of my tweets are sneaker based, basically conversations with other sneakerheads and customers every now and then. Majority of my business comes from Instagram because that's where we started and gained a lot of our popularity. I never focused on twitter, followers just flowed in and we're only following 200+ with 3000+ followers. As far as Tumblr and Facebook those are social networks we just signed up for, I don't really focus on the two but without no effort we're still at 200+ followers on Tumblr and 600+ on Facebook. The funny part about it is we just launched this year so what are you saying? You have 29 followers man, 29!!! Haha!!! No one cares about your brand but you. Forget, all of the followers I have and people that support me. I've provided the proof that my brand is doing well, I posted a picture earlier with my shipments and that's on average. Please take your own advice, I'm always stepping my game up that's what a business is about, evolving and you should do the same.

I can't even critique your brand because it's NOTHING, literally NOTHING to critique. You have nothing but a name lol, like really nothing? And you have the nerve to tell me to step up my game lol. You're a joke!

Post some of your designs, give us something other than a green background on your website to critique haha.
September 12, 2012 @ 02:56 AM
Bulldog

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Consider Benny Gold's Valencia Collection for one. Rather than throw up a bland rendition of a Navajo print shirt, Benny cleverly plays off the pattern and works it into his iconic paper airplane logo. That twist is what correlates to successful design, and in turn, a successful brand.


Biased. If you're gonna be critical, be critical.

Benny's navajo pattern is the same as everyone else's basically.
His brand was already hyped and already successful.

Like karakter said awhile back, some people like him (and there are a lot out there), will buy ________ just because they're ____________.

Benny's valencia collection was by far his most disappointing (the only anything from I didn't buy anything from since I found out about B.G.).

AND NOT ONLY, did he sell out from making a whole collection based on this trend, HE SOLD OUT BY MAKING A REPRINT.

It disgusts me a bit that out of all of his designs, the one collection he reprints for is the most far from what his brand is.

Yes, it's essentially a brand about youth and design.

But what got me was B.G. even though they used the staple graphic t-shirt, etc. like everyone else -- it was always based around Benny's unique designs. For instance the "Works for Jerks" tee, how classic is that? Totally fits with his mantra.

This? Mainstreaming sellout goodness at it's best.


I am far from biased in this matter, nor have I yet to purchase a single Benny Gold product to this date. I do, however, regard him as a well-respected designer and visionary from his past and present work in both the apparel and graphic fields. His concept of identity is superb, take a look at the strong foundation he created for both HUF and his own brand.

The Valencia Collection that Benny released included a number of other items completely unrelated to the Navajo print trend, including unstructured ball caps and pyramid apparel, to name a few. Yet I commend him for his undertaking in regards to said Navajo-patterned trend because he pushed it above and beyond what other brands demonstrated. The packaging for the Native print socks was specifically designed to be removed and folded into a papercraft teepee. That alone demonstrates not only a mastery of one's craft as an apparel and product designer, but experience in addressing preexisting trends in an individual and innovative manner. In regards to the restock in question, there was only one set of items reprinted- the 5 panels which bore the same woven Benny Gold tag as seen on previously-produced items for at least the past year. Not to mention these items were also released alongside other items bearing the traditional BG look which you have advocated, such as the collaborative items with Mighty Healthy.

As I stated previously, the concept of originality itself is subjective. To convey a preexisting idea in a way that no one has yet seen or been able to duplicate; that, in my opinion, falls under the category of originality.

www.justinungar.com

September 12, 2012 @ 02:58 AM
rare01

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Your face is a joke. Oops,sorry I meant your logo


this looks like scrambled letters gone wrong
I am not an amazing artist but what the fuck did you make your graphics and layouts with, ms paint ?
Seriously, look at your stuff before you start criticizing other brands
you are a fucking hater, your site is wack, your graphics are horrible and sounds like a whiny little bitch that goes off about creating the biggest drop but never delivers, stop the fuckin trash talkin and let your work speak.

*** I seriously look forward to you new brand *** hopefully it's not made with paint


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September 12, 2012 @ 03:03 AM
stillwild

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Your face is a joke.


I can't in good conscience, being of age to join the army, answer a post that starts with this.

I'm not a child, contrary to popular belief. I won't resort to name calling.

I mean, really, my face is a joke?

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September 12, 2012 @ 03:04 AM
ricosway

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Your face is a joke. Oops,sorry I meant your logo


this looks like scrambled letters gone wrong
I am not an amazing artist but what the fuck did you make your graphics and layouts with, ms paint ?
Seriously, look at your stuff before you start criticizing other brands
you are a fucking hater, your site is wack, your graphics are horrible, and sounds like a whiny little bitch that goes off about creating the biggest drop but never delivers, stop the fuckin trash talkin and let your work speak.



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Nah @rare01, these are not designs from the guy we're arguing with right now. I'm literally over here laughing my dude, I wouldn't know if I should wear his shirt or try to play scrabble. LMAO @ designing on MS PAINT… I'm done fam hahaha!!! I can't get over that face logo, I'm laughing so hard right now.

I'm done @stillwild anything you say from this point is null and void.

Good luck with your brand haha
September 12, 2012 @ 03:09 AM
stillwild

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@lamash

I know that it was just the hat.
The hat was the least original piece and the least creative.

From a business standpoint, the restock makes perfect sense, but from a consumer standpoint?
It's like if Supreme reprinted something from their first collection, the brand couldn't help but be tarnished -- same with B.G. up until this point, they've worked under the same exclusivity model as Supreme, but all of a sudden it's okay for them to change their model just because of a demand?

Supreme has plenty of demand, they certainly wouldn't buckle, not only because it's been years and it would do noticeable damage to their rep, but people would hate on them for ABANDONING THEIR promise.

What more does a brand have to accomplish than to adhere to it's brand promise? I think worked out ok, 'cause B.G. wasn't all about exclusivity, it was just a component, but still, sell-out.

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September 12, 2012 @ 03:14 AM
stillwild

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@ricosway

Everyone's gotta start somewhere.
I started there, and like I said, now I'm here.

I would think you would realize this, considering your opening spiel with your life story about making it from grad to "movement" (which makes me question the sincerity of it, but anyway).

I never claimed to be an artist? (C'mon this ignorance shit is getting stupid).

However, from my logo to my designs (yes, I paid someone else to do the designs which I am claiming are > than your shit).

But, owning a business means knowing your strengths and weaknesses, especially if you're a one-man show.

I'm not graphically skilled, I never claimed that.

What I did claim, is my designs are better than yours, and they are.

Conceptually, artistically, enjoy running your copy of www.fullylaced.com, you joke.

And here -- is far, far ahead of wherever it is your brands are.

(At least the face logo is something I can claim to have made 100% rather than putting out clothing that is only 5% mine.... and more than likely infringing on a trademark...)



But this is original too right?

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September 12, 2012 @ 03:16 AM
Frank_

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beside all the arguing .....i just looked at the box we have left of shirts...and we only have about 20 or left sooo
September 12, 2012 @ 03:19 AM
stillwild

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beside all the arguing .....i just looked at the box we have left of shirts...and we only have about 20 or left sooo


Is your logo hand drawn?

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