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August 7, 2012 @ 02:03 AM
al dente co.

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Location: MIAMI

I snapped some pictures with my iphone during our video look book shoot. Feel free to comment.







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al dente company // aldenteco.com

August 7, 2012 @ 03:00 AM
sunshiii

Post: 22

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: Planet Earth

I know pictures get the best response in this thread, but I'm curious; say a brand had "visvim-like" quality/process, at half the price...would you buy it?

What I'm trying to ask is if something is of great quality, at the RIGHT price, would you pay for it? Or are you a 'design over everything' type of person? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Detail is everything.

August 7, 2012 @ 03:41 AM
ryder

Post: 240

Join Date: Nov 2011

Location: Canada

So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.

edmflavor.com

August 7, 2012 @ 04:55 AM
Damon Nash

Post: 85

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: Houston, TX

So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.


Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.

http://damonnash.bandcamp.com/album/interim-ep http://soundcloud.com/damon-nash

August 7, 2012 @ 05:21 AM
Angry Chair

Post: 133

Join Date: Oct 2006

simple photo graphic


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacifist-Fight- Wear/198022430260055

August 7, 2012 @ 06:20 AM
ryder

Post: 240

Join Date: Nov 2011

Location: Canada

So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.


Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.


haha gotcha. DTG is still cool, but you really gotta be careful with what type of designs you print. We had multiple shirts that we printed that would literally warp after multiple washes. We were printing on 5301's and washing on cold and hang drying them and it still happened. Ill see if i can find a pic, but a straight print would legit become curved or slanted. And in some cases it was very noticeable. One shirt was so bad, it was a straight 5"x15" print down the side of the shirt, and after a few washes it had almost warped so the bottom was around the center of the shirt.

edmflavor.com

August 7, 2012 @ 06:22 AM
messer

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Join Date: Jul 2012

Back and looking for some more feedback...







August 7, 2012 @ 06:25 AM
sunshiii

Post: 22

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: Planet Earth

^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.

Detail is everything.

August 7, 2012 @ 06:41 AM
rare01

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Join Date: Jul 2012



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What's going on. Check out my site, aldenteco.com and our blog, we have some previews of our lookbook. I would love feed back.


@aldenteco looking good ! what's the brand about ?
August 7, 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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August 7, 2012 @ 07:36 AM
Damon Nash

Post: 85

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: Houston, TX

So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.


Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.


haha gotcha. DTG is still cool, but you really gotta be careful with what type of designs you print. We had multiple shirts that we printed that would literally warp after multiple washes. We were printing on 5301's and washing on cold and hang drying them and it still happened. Ill see if i can find a pic, but a straight print would legit become curved or slanted. And in some cases it was very noticeable. One shirt was so bad, it was a straight 5"x15" print down the side of the shirt, and after a few washes it had almost warped so the bottom was around the center of the shirt.


Hm, i had heard of some issues with DTG, but some of those sound quite severe. What alternative would you suggest to DTG? Keep in mind that im trying to do full color photo prints, so as far as i've been told, screen printing is not an option. I've heard a bit about Heat Transfer, but i can't say i know too much about it. If i had to choose between DTG and Heat Transfer, what would be the wiser route?

http://damonnash.bandcamp.com/album/interim-ep http://soundcloud.com/damon-nash

August 7, 2012 @ 07:43 AM
Frank_

Post: 1217

Join Date: Jan 2009

Been lOoking on and off for the pas 3 months but who knows any place that has 3/4 sleeve football style shirts?This is the best style of short pic I can find
August 7, 2012 @ 10:45 AM
apparelwholesale

Post: 4

Join Date: Aug 2012

I started a brand called Bluu Dreams. This is one of the designs from our line.



Let me know what you think. http://www.bluudreams.com

hey what a collection man....! really its very nice :-)
August 7, 2012 @ 11:41 AM
effustephen

Post: 140

Join Date: Jan 2011

Location: SF


For anyone that was considering Agenda or any trade show, I wrote my experience on my blog. Hopefully this can be useful knowledge for some. You can also ask me any questions as well!
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August 7, 2012 @ 11:54 AM
stillwild

Post: 560

Join Date: Jan 2012

Location: US


For anyone that was considering Agenda or any trade show, I wrote my experience on my blog. Hopefully this can be useful knowledge for some. You can also ask me any questions as well!
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I like your blog, relatable.

www.stillwild.co / online store that celebrates nature!

August 7, 2012 @ 01:10 PM
Argot Alexa

Post: 99

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: North Carolina


For anyone that was considering Agenda or any trade show, I wrote my experience on my blog. Hopefully this can be useful knowledge for some. You can also ask me any questions as well!
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Insightful. Thanks for the link!

www.theargotiers.com

August 7, 2012 @ 01:35 PM
karakter1

Post: 592

Join Date: Jun 2006

@effustephen

nice post...welcome to the other side of the independent brand business world.

here is an excerpt from your blog post that is the realest thing people on here should acknowledge:

"the few select buyers that actually stopped didn't even let me explain my brand or my designs. They seem to only care about if your "stuff" looks cool and would sell in their shop. That's where I was very disappointed."

"I thought what was missing and lost in streetwear and clothing in general was having graphics that actually have creative meaning behind them. I want to create dope apparel to wear, while having a intimate connection to the customer purchasing it. Apparently brands and buyers don't seem to care, it's all about money these days"

Honestly, this has ALWAYS been the case! Stores will only bring in stuff that looks good and/or will sell.

There in-lies your job as a brand owner....Either make stuff that looks like it will sell......or convince the CONSUMER to connect with your brand, or meaning, or lifestyle. That is not the job of the store!

go to any boutique, and it is full of corny shit that will sell, and bullshit from established brands (that looks terrible most of the time) but they convinced consumers to "connect with the meaning or lifestyle"....and will sell!

At the end of the day, it is a business.
August 7, 2012 @ 02:15 PM
mrdaleog

Post: 199

Join Date: Apr 2012

Location: New Jersey

anybody can lead me in the direction on coach jackets / nylon jackets


PM'd.

Shoot me one aswell please.


Same...if you can PM me that Ill see what I can offer you.

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August 7, 2012 @ 02:33 PM
fairlystylish

Post: 10

Join Date: Jun 2012

www.fsuclothing.co.uk
August 7, 2012 @ 03:27 PM
zoidanum

Post: 95

Join Date: Mar 2006

^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.


What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.
August 7, 2012 @ 04:27 PM
karakter1

Post: 592

Join Date: Jun 2006

^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.


What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.


the crazy thing is.....how were people not turned off by Black Scale, if it looked like Diamond? why are people not turned off by Bloodbath if it looks like Black Scale? why are people not turned off by Acropolis if it looks like Bloodbath and Black Scale?

are consumers looking for original? idk. ( before you start to hate)...its just a question.
August 7, 2012 @ 06:19 PM
AndyRocksBluu

Post: 318

Join Date: Jun 2011

Location: Long Island, NY

I started a brand called Bluu Dreams. This is one of the designs from our line.



Let me know what you think. http://www.bluudreams.com

hey what a collection man....! really its very nice :-)


Thanks, I'm slowly getting ready to drop my next collection called the "The Divers Club". However, until then I have free shipping at the store all week long. Dive in.

http://shop.bluudreams.com/

http://bluudreams.com/ #DiveIn

August 7, 2012 @ 07:06 PM
zoidanum

Post: 95

Join Date: Mar 2006

^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.


What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.


the crazy thing is.....how were people not turned off by Black Scale, if it looked like Diamond? why are people not turned off by Bloodbath if it looks like Black Scale? why are people not turned off by Acropolis if it looks like Bloodbath and Black Scale?

are consumers looking for original? idk. ( before you start to hate)...its just a question.


No hate at all. I feel alot of customers aren't looking for original. That's why I said that designs which will fit these trends are sellers. He print those and he would be in for a quick buck. Longevity? Not so much. From the brand owners point of view, I would not even get designs done if I feel they lack originality, I would not want to build a brand of so people can say "Looks like ..." I want them to look at my shit and think yeah thats definately "Whateveryourbrandiscalled".
As for the brands I mentioned, Black Scale and Bloodbath could pretty much fit in the same mix I agree. I would not put Diamond and Acropolis with them whatsoever. Also I think, and I'm speaking for me personally here, as a customer I prefer those brands which I can indentify with the most. Meaning I find out about your brand, google your shit, read your blog, check your lookbooks and decide whether to cop or not. I know alot of people don't do this they see a shirt think its hot and buy it. Its cool that way, I just like to find out more about the brand and the people behind it in general.

The thing with his designs is I take a look at the 4 pics and I find a shirt in everyone of those mentioned brands lookbooks which I would identify with his designs. This shows me that, first there is no general concept behind it (ie mix of 4 different brands) and second there is not alot of originalty.
For example:

This was the very first thought when I took a look at his first design. And I feel alot of people would think of him doing a rip off even if he maybe never seen the shirt or heard about the brand.
August 7, 2012 @ 07:18 PM
Broken Bank Clo

Post: 527

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: San Diego

@effustephen

nice post...welcome to the other side of the independent brand business world.

here is an excerpt from your blog post that is the realest thing people on here should acknowledge:

"the few select buyers that actually stopped didn't even let me explain my brand or my designs. They seem to only care about if your "stuff" looks cool and would sell in their shop. That's where I was very disappointed."

"I thought what was missing and lost in streetwear and clothing in general was having graphics that actually have creative meaning behind them. I want to create dope apparel to wear, while having a intimate connection to the customer purchasing it. Apparently brands and buyers don't seem to care, it's all about money these days"

Honestly, this has ALWAYS been the case! Stores will only bring in stuff that looks good and/or will sell.

There in-lies your job as a brand owner....Either make stuff that looks like it will sell......or convince the CONSUMER to connect with your brand, or meaning, or lifestyle. That is not the job of the store!

go to any boutique, and it is full of corny shit that will sell, and bullshit from established brands (that looks terrible most of the time) but they convinced consumers to "connect with the meaning or lifestyle"....and will sell!

At the end of the day, it is a business.


^^^THIS > ALL OTHER INFO
I have walked into The Attic and other boutiques many times and looked at some of the designs and sayd WTFITS

Friends putting their friends stuff in their shop when is by far some of the worst garbage I have ever seen.

But you know what. It's a buyers market. And if it's selling, then boutiques are buying and stocking it.

The market really is open to everyone. Random brands blow up. And some of those brands may be in here. The same ones some of you may comment on and say will never accomplish anything because all they have is a logo T and no depth....

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

August 7, 2012 @ 07:22 PM
karakter1

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Join Date: Jun 2006

From my experience with retail and retailers, most customers either come in a shop asking for a particular item/brand, or buy things that look dope.

if the customer does not know about your product, or the meaning behind it....then it better look dope!
August 7, 2012 @ 08:14 PM
Broken Bank Clo

Post: 527

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: San Diego

Is that considered "selling" out...

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

August 7, 2012 @ 08:24 PM
casein_point

Post: 183

Join Date: Jul 2012

Is that considered "selling" out...


I have a hard time considering anything as selling out. UNLESS you completely alter anything and everything that your brand is based of off and honestly don't think that happens often. Yes somethings change, but that comes with the territory. If you don't make changes than its likely you'll be left in the dust. I don't understand when people say clothing companies or musical artists sell out. Isn't that the point to making that your job, to sell? to get money? to recieve profit?
August 7, 2012 @ 08:37 PM
karakter1

Post: 592

Join Date: Jun 2006

Is that considered "selling" out...


selling out what?

the store that can care less about your stuff?....the consumer that doesn't know you exist?...yourself ?
( not talking bout you in particular...young brands in general)

this is business. you either do well, or you don't........and you know what it means for a business to do well. It can be a T-shirt biz, or a damn Pizza place....biz is biz and there is only ONE factor that will dictate the success of all businesses.
August 7, 2012 @ 08:41 PM
Broken Bank Clo

Post: 527

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: San Diego

Is that considered "selling" out...


I have a hard time considering anything as selling out. UNLESS you completely alter anything and everything that your brand is based of off and honestly don't think that happens often. Yes somethings change, but that comes with the territory. If you don't make changes than its likely you'll be left in the dust. I don't understand when people say clothing companies or musical artists sell out. Isn't that the point to making that your job, to sell? to get money? to recieve profit?


EXACTLY.

I just wanted someone else other then myself to point that out.

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo

August 7, 2012 @ 08:45 PM
Broken Bank Clo

Post: 527

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: San Diego

Is that considered "selling" out...


selling out what?

the store that can care less about your stuff?....the consumer that doesn't know you exist?...yourself ?
( not talking bout you in particular...young brands in general)

this is business. you either do well, or you don't........and you know what it means for a business to do well. It can be a T-shirt biz, or a damn Pizza place....biz is biz and there is only ONE factor that will dictate the success of all businesses.


LOL. I was typing the same thing but deleted it because I didn't want to hurt anyone feelings who may think this business is all roses and honey drops.
If you can't adapt then you won't survive. That's why people mimic, spoof, and replicate the heavy hitters. It may be lame but it's "smart" business sense to get noticed. It doesn't always work out, not saying it's right but that is just how it is...

Broken Bank Clothing *** www.BrokenBankClothing.com *** @brokenbankclo


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