Starting a New Line/Brand Feedback Thread

Aug 07, 2012 @ 01:04
this dude i'm sponsoring wearing my 1st tee. he's about to have his debut cagefight soon.






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Aug 07, 2012 @ 01:37


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 01:43
preach bruh benny gold, preach.


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 01:46
@maxeumanzor diggin' it man
Aug 07, 2012 @ 01:59
Just another release









i really like this... simple and clean. kinda reminds me of stussy with the logo. but that's cool.


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 02:03
I snapped some pictures with my iphone during our video look book shoot. Feel free to comment.




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Aug 07, 2012 @ 03:00
I know pictures get the best response in this thread, but I'm curious; say a brand had "visvim-like" quality/process, at half the price...would you buy it?

What I'm trying to ask is if something is of great quality, at the RIGHT price, would you pay for it? Or are you a 'design over everything' type of person? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Detail is everything.

Aug 07, 2012 @ 03:41
Originally posted by Inactive User
So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 04:55
Originally posted by Inactive User
So, i've been lurking on this forum for awhile now, liking what i see from a lot of you guys and what not and have decided i want to jump in on this with my own brand.

I've made some designs, all of which are photos i've taken that i'd like to print on an Alstyle 1301 shirt, using a DTG printer in order to achieve the full-color photo print.

I have a decent amount of money saved up, but to my dismay, am having a terrible time finding a decent deal on a DTG printer.

If anyone has any info that would help me out, PM me, it would be greatly appreciated.


We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.


Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 05:21
simple photo graphic


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 06:20
Originally posted by Inactive User
We bought a DTG(Fast T Jet 2) when we first started. If i could go back, i doubt id buy one, but it got us in the direction were at now.

The one we got was used, and didnt come with a manual, so tons of sweat equity went into getting that thing working, and then running properly, and also maintaining it. It eats up a lot of your time, but if the machine is working perfectly its pretty sweet to be able to print off only one shirt. It also cuts down on costs because you can print to order.

Personally, I would advise against buying one. Use the capital on other things while outsourcing the printing.


Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.


haha gotcha. DTG is still cool, but you really gotta be careful with what type of designs you print. We had multiple shirts that we printed that would literally warp after multiple washes. We were printing on 5301's and washing on cold and hang drying them and it still happened. Ill see if i can find a pic, but a straight print would legit become curved or slanted. And in some cases it was very noticeable. One shirt was so bad, it was a straight 5"x15" print down the side of the shirt, and after a few washes it had almost warped so the bottom was around the center of the shirt.

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 06:22
Back and looking for some more feedback...







Aug 07, 2012 @ 06:25
^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 06:41


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 07:33


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Aug 07, 2012 @ 07:36
Originally posted by Inactive User
Thank you for the input, but i just noticed i phrased that completely wrong. What i should've said was DTG printing service. I lack the spare $10k+ pocket change to attempt to purchase an actual printer on my own.


haha gotcha. DTG is still cool, but you really gotta be careful with what type of designs you print. We had multiple shirts that we printed that would literally warp after multiple washes. We were printing on 5301's and washing on cold and hang drying them and it still happened. Ill see if i can find a pic, but a straight print would legit become curved or slanted. And in some cases it was very noticeable. One shirt was so bad, it was a straight 5"x15" print down the side of the shirt, and after a few washes it had almost warped so the bottom was around the center of the shirt.


Hm, i had heard of some issues with DTG, but some of those sound quite severe. What alternative would you suggest to DTG? Keep in mind that im trying to do full color photo prints, so as far as i've been told, screen printing is not an option. I've heard a bit about Heat Transfer, but i can't say i know too much about it. If i had to choose between DTG and Heat Transfer, what would be the wiser route?

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 07:43
Been lOoking on and off for the pas 3 months but who knows any place that has 3/4 sleeve football style shirts?This is the best style of short pic I can find
Aug 07, 2012 @ 10:45
I started a brand called Bluu Dreams. This is one of the designs from our line.



Let me know what you think. "http://www.bluudreams.com"

hey what a collection man....! really its very nice :-)
Aug 07, 2012 @ 11:41

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 11:54

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 13:10

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Insightful. Thanks for the link!

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 13:35
@effustephen

nice post...welcome to the other side of the independent brand business world.

here is an excerpt from your blog post that is the realest thing people on here should acknowledge:

"the few select buyers that actually stopped didn't even let me explain my brand or my designs. They seem to only care about if your "stuff" looks cool and would sell in their shop. That's where I was very disappointed."

"I thought what was missing and lost in streetwear and clothing in general was having graphics that actually have creative meaning behind them. I want to create dope apparel to wear, while having a intimate connection to the customer purchasing it. Apparently brands and buyers don't seem to care, it's all about money these days"

Honestly, this has ALWAYS been the case! Stores will only bring in stuff that looks good and/or will sell.

There in-lies your job as a brand owner....Either make stuff that looks like it will sell......or convince the CONSUMER to connect with your brand, or meaning, or lifestyle. That is not the job of the store!

go to any boutique, and it is full of corny shit that will sell, and bullshit from established brands (that looks terrible most of the time) but they convinced consumers to "connect with the meaning or lifestyle"....and will sell!

At the end of the day, it is a business.
Aug 07, 2012 @ 14:15
PM'd.

Shoot me one aswell please.


Same...if you can PM me that Ill see what I can offer you.

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 14:33
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Aug 07, 2012 @ 15:27
^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.


What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.
Aug 07, 2012 @ 16:27
^ I like the direction of it, could use a bit more originality. That second picture just screams Black Scale to me personally.


What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.


the crazy thing is.....how were people not turned off by Black Scale, if it looked like Diamond? why are people not turned off by Bloodbath if it looks like Black Scale? why are people not turned off by Acropolis if it looks like Bloodbath and Black Scale?

are consumers looking for original? idk. ( before you start to hate)...its just a question.
Aug 07, 2012 @ 18:19
I started a brand called Bluu Dreams. This is one of the designs from our line.



Let me know what you think. "http://www.bluudreams.com"

hey what a collection man....! really its very nice :-)


Thanks, I'm slowly getting ready to drop my next collection called the "The Divers Club". However, until then I have free shipping at the store all week long. Dive in.

http://shop.bluudreams.com/

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 19:06
What he said. Can't go really wrong with those kinda designs due to current trends, yet if I was going down the posted pics they remind me of:
1. Bloodbath, 2. Black Scale, 3. Diamond Supply, 4. Acropolis
Which is not really a bad thing since these designs sell but they also come off as unoriginal and would turn me personally away from buying your stuff.


the crazy thing is.....how were people not turned off by Black Scale, if it looked like Diamond? why are people not turned off by Bloodbath if it looks like Black Scale? why are people not turned off by Acropolis if it looks like Bloodbath and Black Scale?

are consumers looking for original? idk. ( before you start to hate)...its just a question.


No hate at all. I feel alot of customers aren't looking for original. That's why I said that designs which will fit these trends are sellers. He print those and he would be in for a quick buck. Longevity? Not so much. From the brand owners point of view, I would not even get designs done if I feel they lack originality, I would not want to build a brand of so people can say "Looks like ..." I want them to look at my shit and think yeah thats definately "Whateveryourbrandiscalled".
As for the brands I mentioned, Black Scale and Bloodbath could pretty much fit in the same mix I agree. I would not put Diamond and Acropolis with them whatsoever. Also I think, and I'm speaking for me personally here, as a customer I prefer those brands which I can indentify with the most. Meaning I find out about your brand, google your shit, read your blog, check your lookbooks and decide whether to cop or not. I know alot of people don't do this they see a shirt think its hot and buy it. Its cool that way, I just like to find out more about the brand and the people behind it in general.

The thing with his designs is I take a look at the 4 pics and I find a shirt in everyone of those mentioned brands lookbooks which I would identify with his designs. This shows me that, first there is no general concept behind it (ie mix of 4 different brands) and second there is not alot of originalty.
For example:

This was the very first thought when I took a look at his first design. And I feel alot of people would think of him doing a rip off even if he maybe never seen the shirt or heard about the brand.
Aug 07, 2012 @ 19:18
@effustephen

nice post...welcome to the other side of the independent brand business world.

here is an excerpt from your blog post that is the realest thing people on here should acknowledge:

"the few select buyers that actually stopped didn't even let me explain my brand or my designs. They seem to only care about if your "stuff" looks cool and would sell in their shop. That's where I was very disappointed."

"I thought what was missing and lost in streetwear and clothing in general was having graphics that actually have creative meaning behind them. I want to create dope apparel to wear, while having a intimate connection to the customer purchasing it. Apparently brands and buyers don't seem to care, it's all about money these days"

Honestly, this has ALWAYS been the case! Stores will only bring in stuff that looks good and/or will sell.

There in-lies your job as a brand owner....Either make stuff that looks like it will sell......or convince the CONSUMER to connect with your brand, or meaning, or lifestyle. That is not the job of the store!

go to any boutique, and it is full of corny shit that will sell, and bullshit from established brands (that looks terrible most of the time) but they convinced consumers to "connect with the meaning or lifestyle"....and will sell!

At the end of the day, it is a business.


^^^THIS > ALL OTHER INFO
I have walked into The Attic and other boutiques many times and looked at some of the designs and sayd WTFITS

Friends putting their friends stuff in their shop when is by far some of the worst garbage I have ever seen.

But you know what. It's a buyers market. And if it's selling, then boutiques are buying and stocking it.

The market really is open to everyone. Random brands blow up. And some of those brands may be in here. The same ones some of you may comment on and say will never accomplish anything because all they have is a logo T and no depth....

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Aug 07, 2012 @ 19:22
From my experience with retail and retailers, most customers either come in a shop asking for a particular item/brand, or buy things that look dope.

if the customer does not know about your product, or the meaning behind it....then it better look dope!
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