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November 23, 2008 @ 02:42 AM
hotboQs

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i am looking to buy a mac but im wondering if i should if all im going to do really is use photoshop, make a website, and surf the web basically. i am going to start my own site and was wondering if mac has all the capabilities to do that. sorry if i sound like a total noob or something. thanks for responses.
November 23, 2008 @ 07:19 AM
magneticman

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Macs and PCs are identical hardware-wise, the only difference is the OS.
November 23, 2008 @ 10:00 AM
TR.eat

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November 23, 2008 @ 12:55 PM
VVV

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^ I have a Macbook and it's been hacked lol.

Anyways, photoshopping on a Mac is pretty good; if you are just using it for the purposes you listed then you would have no problem with Macs. smile
November 23, 2008 @ 01:13 PM
hotboQs

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ok thanks for the help guys. it was well appreciated. razz
November 23, 2008 @ 01:19 PM
Medasyn

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like what everyone else has said, macs are better for work, and you can go on the dogiest porn sites and still not get a virus hahaa
November 23, 2008 @ 02:52 PM
pnsho

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And second of all, they never get hacked and never get bugs ( contrarely, PCs often bug and get viruses )


lol
November 23, 2008 @ 03:40 PM
magneticman

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Yes, only Macs are better to work on, they are made for that.
PCs are better to play video games and other things.

I would say that for what you want to do, the best is a Mac.
First of all because they are usually faster. And second of all, they never get hacked and never get bugs ( contrarely, PCs often bug and get viruses )

If it's only to surf the web, create a web site, watch movies, use photoshop, Macs are the best.


roflmao

OK now you're just being a mac fanboy, think before you type, don't just blurt shit out and think no one will notice.

like what everyone else has said, macs are better for work, and you can go on the dogiest porn sites and still not get a virus hahaa


Macs are gaining a larger userbase, and surely you know what that means? The rate of viruses targeted at the mac is rising fast.

*www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/10/20/apple.virus/index.html

substantiating my claim*
November 23, 2008 @ 05:45 PM
Molly Wopp

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yup thats true, theres being more hype for apples now these days due to the theory No Virus, which means hackers and other people are on the search to fuck up your shit

but yea a mac will be good for your stuff
November 23, 2008 @ 11:26 PM
SprNtrl

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i am looking to buy a mac but im wondering if i should if all im going to do really is use photoshop, make a website, and surf the web basically. i am going to start my own site and was wondering if mac has all the capabilities to do that. sorry if i sound like a total noob or something. thanks for responses.
I can do all that shit on my 2 year old Dell laptop just fine. Website design is not that tasking. Images are usually low-resolution, low quality, and the coding it self can be handled by a basic text editor such as Notepad. I'm pretty sure Flash dev. isn't that intensive either.

Pick up a Mac if you like getting little value for your money. Pick up a PC that will be cheaper, and faster (and thus last longer), as well as easier to upgrade if you value your money.

Honestly, your not gonna get insta-poon because you have a Mac. It doesn't make sense to purchase a more expensive unit, when you can get a faster, more capable unit for less.

With the new macbooks, if you are running on AC power from the wall, and you don't have the battery installed (some people remove it to increase battery life, as heat will degrade lifespan) the computer will not run full speed. The cpu will scale back it's speed. That means Apple can't even produce a power brick to supply a measly 65 watt is or so laptop. They are cutting their cost, while jacking up yours.

One thing I will tell you to buy is a laptop equipped with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. As much as I love AMD, they just aren't competitive in the mobile market right now.
November 26, 2008 @ 10:33 AM
NathanP

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Most of these m'fuka's don't know wtf they're talking about throwing out unsubstantiated claims.

Consdering your overall lack of knowledge of the subject, and not wanting to be a "total noob." Yes a mac is good for all the things you mentioned. If you want to make a website, and intend it to be your job, source of income. You get what you pay for, their is a reason why start ups especially Graphic Design and Web Design company's use Macs. They work, they don't need to higher hardware/software consultants, they don't need an IT departement, or a Helpdesk on call. Their hardware and software support is the best, bar none. To save yourself from any future headaches or time spent troubleshooting, get a mac.

This is a short post.
November 26, 2008 @ 11:22 AM
SprNtrl

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unsubstantiated claims.
Please, point these out.

Graphic Design and Web Design company's use Macs.
This is something I never understood because Adobe Photoshop on a Windows machine runs circles around a similarly equipped Mac. I understand Macs for video processing and the like, but graphic work (unless it's fuckin' massive) doesn't make much sense on a Mac.
November 26, 2008 @ 11:41 AM
heydeleteme

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You can get a PC 4x more powerful as a Mac for half the price...
December 2, 2008 @ 01:24 PM
magneticman

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December 2, 2008 @ 01:42 PM
TyraCute

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^^
u make fun of mac fanboys

but ur just the complete opposite....u are a complete mac hater...same thing to me
December 2, 2008 @ 01:50 PM
switttch

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You can get a PC 4x more powerful as a Mac for half the price...


^and 4x the viruses razz>sad

http://everythingyoulovetohate.us/

December 2, 2008 @ 03:54 PM
magneticman

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^^
u make fun of mac fanboys

but ur just the complete opposite....u are a complete mac hater...same thing to me


hating a typical mac owners lends itself to hating the brand in general tbh

Although I do hate ill-informed people who spew bullshit, and those who try to justify the purchase of a mac with perpetual bullshit:

^and 4x the viruses razz>sad


Like him. Like I just posted, support.apple.com/kb/HT2550

"Apple encourages the widespread use of multiple antivirus utilities"

Oh yes, the biggest argument in a Mac user's favour is now (publicly) void. Which is absolutely fucking hilarious as shows the bullshit Apple use to dupe suckers in with. For example:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Z386vXrt4

Yes, microsoft can just as bad or whatever PC-centric company you want to compare to. But at least MS supports the Mac, wheras you're forced to buy Apple's hardware in order to run OSX without long winded (and illegal) workarounds.
December 2, 2008 @ 04:13 PM
TyraCute

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^^ there's the hate

i'm a mac user...i came from a custom built PC. I was all up in getting the latest video card, latest processor, the nice cases, everything.....

Now i'm a mac user. I enjoy my mac because i am able to customize things on my computer moreso than on a windows machine. Expose and Spaces is awesome.

I love how you don't need to defrag your computer like a PC has to do from time to time.

i love how there is no clutter in your file system like there is for windows. Program files, then all of the accompanied files that you see when you are looking in each program's directory. With Macs, you just see the "exe" file, nothing else.....no need to accidentally delete one file and the program stops working b/c u deleted a .dll file.

i could care less about viruses, as i never ran an anti-virus software for windows and i'm not running one for a Mac. If you know what you are browsing and know what not to click, you'll be fine on not getting a virus.
December 2, 2008 @ 04:18 PM
switttch

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December 2, 2008 @ 04:39 PM
magneticman

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i'm a mac user...i came from a custom built PC. I was all up in getting the latest video card, latest processor, the nice cases, everything.....


Curious start, one that has little relevance to the subject of discussion tbh.

Now i'm a mac user. I enjoy my mac because i am able to customize things on my computer moreso than on a windows machine. Expose and Spaces is awesome.


guess there's fine line b/w organising and customising, but nevertheless won't really matter once Windows 7 comes along or Linux that can do that now.

I love how you don't need to defrag your computer like a PC has to do from time to time.


fair enough

i love how there is no clutter in your file system like there is for windows. Program files, then all of the accompanied files that you see when you are looking in each program's directory. With Macs, you just see the "exe" file, nothing else.....no need to accidentally delete one file and the program stops working b/c u deleted a .dll file.

i could care less about viruses, as i never ran an anti-virus software for windows and i'm not running one for a Mac. If you know what you are browsing and know what not to click, you'll be fine on not getting a virus.



If you know what you're doing with viruses, how on earth would you delete system/program files?

Factor in that these directories are hidden from the segment in the market that are more likely to cause these problems and I wouldn't call it a problem anyway.

But, I respect your opinion and your preferences. It is completely true that OSX is better suited to some people, but at the same time the same can be said of Linux and Windows.
December 2, 2008 @ 06:40 PM
SprNtrl

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i'm a mac user...i came from a custom built PC. I was all up in getting the latest video card, latest processor, the nice cases, everything.....

Now i'm a mac user. I enjoy my mac because i am able to customize things on my computer moreso than on a windows machine. Expose and Spaces is awesome.

I love how you don't need to defrag your computer like a PC has to do from time to time.

i love how there is no clutter in your file system like there is for windows. Program files, then all of the accompanied files that you see when you are looking in each program's directory. With Macs, you just see the "exe" file, nothing else.....no need to accidentally delete one file and the program stops working b/c u deleted a .dll file.

i could care less about viruses, as i never ran an anti-virus software for windows and i'm not running one for a Mac. If you know what you are browsing and know what not to click, you'll be fine on not getting a virus.
You haven't posted any real reasons to get a Mac for the uses the OP listed.

You liked to upgrade hardware on your PC, but instead chose a Mac that has very restricted upgrade path. That's fine, maybe you grew tired of keeping up with the latest hardware.

Why are you a Mac user now? Because OSX is more customizable? (Despite the thousands of Windows personalization applications out there? ). Not a good reason to get a Mac.

While the OSX has some simple safeguards that stamp out some file fragmentation, Apple still does recommend defragging if you have very large files (like movies) or when you are extremely low on space. Guess what, these are the same conditions that you should defragment Windows machines too. Daily, or weekly defrags on Windows are not necessary, unless you are moving large files around, in which case you'd need to defrag on OSX too. Once a month would do fine, and you probably wouldn't see much of a performance increase anyways, especially with fast modern drives (anything in the last 3 years).

As for file system "clutter", the scenario you posted is not likely to happen to a machine in the hands of an average user. I bet most don't know they have access to the raw files on their hard drive via My Computer.
December 3, 2008 @ 12:44 AM
TyraCute

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defragging is pointless on a mac
forums.mactalk.com.au/20/32660-do-you-need-defrag-your-mac-hd-answer-revealed.html

for the OP..
yes i would recommend a mac if you are doing those features. I find photoshop is optimized better on a mac compared to a PC. It doesn't use as much processes as it is on windows.

see the thing with windows to get it customized, you have to download all these different programs while to have expose and spaces you don't have to. I personally find expose and spaces very beneficial for my type of usage.

One reason why MACs are great on fighting off viruses, each time you install programs on your computer it asks you to enter your password. This deters viruses from installing on your computer without you knowing.
December 3, 2008 @ 12:50 AM
Killa!

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macs are better if u dont want cyber aids
December 3, 2008 @ 01:35 AM
SprNtrl

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defragging is pointless on a mac
forums.mactalk.com.au/20/32660-do-you-need-defrag-your-mac-hd-answer-revealed.html

for the OP..
yes i would recommend a mac if you are doing those features. I find photoshop is optimized better on a mac compared to a PC. It doesn't use as much processes as it is on windows.
There is an official Apple KB article on defragmentation that states that defragmentation is recommended after deleting, moving or downloading very large files. Not any different from a PC.

As for Photoshop seeming faster to you, well, that's subjective correct? Benchmarks show time and again that Photoshop does run faster on the whole in a PC enviroment then it does in an OSX one. So it's safe to state that for the OP's uses, a PC would actually be a better choice.
December 3, 2008 @ 01:58 AM
IamSean

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Now i'm a mac user. I enjoy my mac because i am able to customize things on my computer moreso than on a windows machine. Expose and Spaces is awesome.


Honestly, there are compelling reasons to get a Mac for some people. That being said, since when was OSX more customizable than Windows?
December 3, 2008 @ 05:15 AM
magneticman

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yes i would recommend a mac if you are doing those features. I find photoshop is optimized better on a mac compared to a PC. It doesn't use as much processes as it is on windows.


OSX runs Photoshop quicker than Vista, but XP runs it faster than both of them. So technically PC is faster.

It's all changed with CS4 and future editions though, apple dumped os features realising Vista has much better 64-bit implementation. Since CS4 is optimised to use with 64bit and GPGPU (features which are thriving on the pc platform), and as it is very sensitive to RAM performance (x58/tri-channel memory of up to 2ghz/only ever for pc) you can see where this is going.

and photoshop uses one process on windows what on earth are you talking about.
December 3, 2008 @ 06:41 AM
BubbleTeaJelly

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i am looking to buy a mac but im wondering if i should if all im going to do really is use photoshop, make a website, and surf the web basically. i am going to start my own site and was wondering if mac has all the capabilities to do that. sorry if i sound like a total noob or something. thanks for responses.


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December 4, 2008 @ 06:15 PM
bryant

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Yada Yada Yada.....the pc vs mac argument is endless and pointless...

I love computers - all aspects, and i develop web sites for a career, but to be honest alot of it comes down to the lesser of two (or three) evils....

but to get back to the question of this post....

if you a average computer user, who wants a durable laptop, that can do everyday things, I would say get a Mac. You said you want to do some stuff with photoshop and it sounds like some basic web dev. A Mac will be able to handle that stuff very easily.

However...

There are some draw backs in terms of development that are hard to get around with Macs (such as developing in microsoft based languages that fall under the .NET umbrella)... there are ways to get around them, but its more of a pain in the ass.....


I personally prefer a PC and I have problems with mac fanboys....

mac fanboys are the equiv to a wack ass hypebeast type kid trying to sport some hot shit when he knows shit about the gear he's rocking...

...sorry for the rant, hope that helps
December 10, 2008 @ 12:02 PM
dandruf215

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there is no other way to go except mac. I've been a mac user all my life and have to say there is no comparison between a mac and pc. Mac's are so much more intuitive to use + they look a 100 times cooler.
December 10, 2008 @ 01:14 PM
randomgrandeur

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I personally prefer a PC and I have problems with mac fanboys....

mac fanboys are the equiv to a wack ass hypebeast type kid trying to sport some hot shit when he knows shit about the gear he's rocking...

...sorry for the rant, hope that helps


I think it's worse when people who use PCs have to come out the woodwork to defend their right to not use Macs. They always derail threads with their PC banter. It never fails. Mention a Mac and about 38492734 PC users have to state why a person shouldn't buy a Mac, even if the thread starter has every intention to buy it any damn way. Useless.

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