January 9, 2007 @ 07:28 PM
bigsink

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Not that great? I have a PPC 6700 and cant even use it as a media player because my battery life is so poor.

The apple has almost 2x the battery life of standard PDA do it all phones. 5hr talk time is pretty damn good. I Dont think you can play 6hrs of straight music on ANY othe PDA-do-it-all phone. I had 5of these types of phones so far.

The apple looks very promising.
January 9, 2007 @ 07:47 PM
wxyz

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where can i buy?
looks insane!
January 9, 2007 @ 07:57 PM
GaSp

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finally a great phone for cingular.smile
January 9, 2007 @ 07:57 PM

Inactive

damn, good thing my contract with Tmob is up in a yr.
January 9, 2007 @ 08:21 PM
PuRPoS3

Post: 342

Join Date: Sep 2006

shit looks insane.
price hurts my pockets though sad
January 9, 2007 @ 08:39 PM

Inactive

Damn..and I just bought a new phone too.
January 9, 2007 @ 08:41 PM
Iason

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I was just going to buy the Blackjack today.

Anyone know if this is a world phone?
January 9, 2007 @ 09:56 PM
dennis239

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They have em in our testing room, but only engineers are allowed to mess with em so far.
January 9, 2007 @ 10:10 PM
sneakerHI

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Location: So CaL

pretty sick but isnt it basically an apple palm pilot????
January 9, 2007 @ 10:52 PM
dunksfordays

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Location: Akron, Ohio

the battery life is way better than any "smart phone" on the market today and i have been waiting for this for like a year now and im so glad that i help up and didnt buy a new phone. the price is well worth it, im already on cingular and have no problems what so ever with anything so its 100% copped on the drop date
January 9, 2007 @ 11:06 PM
Evident

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The Nokia n95 is way better
January 9, 2007 @ 11:09 PM
Evident

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nokia n95>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Ipod phone
January 9, 2007 @ 11:09 PM
Evident

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nokia n95>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ipod phone
January 9, 2007 @ 11:35 PM
JoHnFLeM

Post: 551

Join Date: Jul 2006

Location: NorCal

Uh oh. You double post'd. Bad bad boy. (That is if ur a boy)

Oh yes this is a definite cop. Will we be able to reserve online? If so when? Lets get these answers people.
January 9, 2007 @ 11:43 PM
DunkPunk

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Location: L.A.

i was dl itunes por my prnd den i saw it ees pretty noice

UCSB.

January 10, 2007 @ 12:10 AM
MickMike

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i wonder if it will have the [SIZE="4"]"beeeam your tunes"[/SIZE]

w/o that its noth'n new..meh
January 10, 2007 @ 02:05 PM
Juan

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DAMN JUST BOUGHT THE PEARL
January 10, 2007 @ 02:31 PM

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Location: queens

It will only work for Cingular...at least when it first releases


its ok i wont be able to upgrade until end of the year anyways.
January 10, 2007 @ 07:20 PM
Flipstah

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Damn you Cingular... I hope phone this will come to Canada sometime this year sad
January 14, 2007 @ 08:03 PM
Selly

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Location: Toronto

Apple sued over use of name "iPhone" just days after its announced.
Apple Inc. - the computer giant that just dropped the word "computer" from its corporate name - didn't get where it is today by making mistakes.

So you have to wonder what the motive was behind the naming of the long awaited iPhone product it revealed to much fanfare earlier this week.

The new device promises to do everything BlackBerries, PDAs, cell phones and MP3 players do in one small package.

It doesn't hit the market until June, but already there's a problem - it seems Apple doesn't actually own the name.

Cisco System, the most highly valued company in Silicon Valley, has sued Apple for trademark violation, claiming it's had ownership of the term "iPhone" since the year 2000 and has its own product that already bears the name.

The two companies have been in negotiations over the use of the moniker for years and were close to an agreement.

But then Apple guru Steve Jobs stepped out on a stage and into trouble Tuesday, officially announcing the new iPhone to the world, even though the two firms never actually reached a deal.

"We certainly expected that since they had gone ahead and announced a product without receiving permission to use the brand, that meant that the negotiation was concluded," maintains Cisco V.P. Mark Chandler.

If Apple is worried about the potential it might wind up owing millions of dollars in penalties for its actions, it's not showing it. The company has responded to the lawsuit with one word -"silly".

How does it justify such a defence?

Lawyers for the firm claim other companies have been using the "iPhone" designation for years with no problem. And they insist the fact the two products are so vastly different negates any confusion in the marketplace.

The new product is an all-in-one cell phone. The old one uses Voice over Internet Protocol to connect users.

"We believe that Cisco's U.S. trademark registration is tenuous at best," responds spokesperson Natalie Kerris. "Apple's the first company to use the iPhone name for a cell phone. And if Cisco wants to challenge us on it, we're very confident we will prevail."

But analysts aren't so sure. They argue Cisco's current "iPhone" could soon more closely resemble the functions that will be featured in the new Apple creation and that there's plenty of reason to assume consumers could be confused.

"I'd envision that Cisco would be inclined to add cellular functionality to its iPhone," believes network specialist Erik Suppiger. "I would not be surprised to see them add additional memory for supporting whatever media functions you might want, either ... The phones may not overlap right now, but they would over the foreseeable future."

Others are sure Cisco is deliberately launching a legal hand grenade at a long time competitor.

"Cisco is a very, very smart company, and anything they can do to slow Apple out of the gate might give them an advantage at the negotiating table," explains researcher Eve Griliches. "Chances are both companies knew this lawsuit was going to happen - the real question is, what's really behind it?"

The answer to that question could come in a courtroom with millions or even billions of dollars at stake. And that could seriously hang up the iPhone.


www.citynews.ca/news/news_6820.aspx
January 14, 2007 @ 08:08 PM
TheFly

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First of all the "iPhone" name lawsuit is stupid and wont really effect the product at all. The worst possible case in that is they will change the name to "Apple Iphone" or the "Apple phone" or something. Who cares?


What matters is... Here's how much an iPhone will really cost you.

• $640 Phone - $599 plus tax (~8%)
• $60/mo Voice Plan - cheapest plan with unlimited nights and weekends
• $40/mo MEdia Max 3000 Bundle - includes 3000 texts and unlimited MediaNet
• $8/mo Fees

Total ownership cost for the first year: $1936

article via CenterNet
January 14, 2007 @ 08:38 PM
wxyz

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i figure sience apple isnt planning on releasing it till june
or whenever..... its going to build so so so much hype.
other companies will pick up on the design features and such.
most providers will have there version of the iphone and be
able to realese it at about the same time. I was planning on buying one
but thanks to thefly^^ im reconsidering, i think will wait
till my provider come out with the next best thing.
January 14, 2007 @ 09:12 PM
focus

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January 14, 2007 @ 10:10 PM
SBJmarT

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Location: Boston

those phones are just as sick as the iphone and probably wont cost you 2000 a year to have it, price comes with the name
January 23, 2007 @ 02:02 PM
Shaznizzle

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Location: Asia

Made for its own kind

I believe iPhone did not live to the Phone Industry standards. Its a GREAT device, trust me... I'm loving it... However, they fail to realize that it is a phone. Thus the iPhone is more of a 'Media Player' such as a Internet Browser and Music/Photos/Video Player. So its a Media Player built-in phone.

With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation.

Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc). I am not to worry about this, with an OS X in a phone, all this can be upgraded with future firmware or installation.

Thus this applies to my statement of iPhone being a more of a Media Player/iPod built-in phone, than a Phone built-in Media Player/iPod. From a statement from Mr Steve Jobs, "a phone at least 5 years ahead of the current phones," I agree in terms of software and OS only.. that is far as it goes. Whereas hardware wise, I can sadly say, they are atleast 5 years behind time.

Without 3G and Internal VGA camera, Video Calls (iChat) is out of the picture. For security, they can implement Face Recognition which my phone already have... which i bought nearly a year ago at 05, so that too is out of the picture. Interesting enough, Mr Steve Jobs did not even showed us a demo of how the 2MP camera works, yes maybe what he is holding is still a prototype, but since when does he hold and presents a prototype one might asked. Why? Not a good idea, because it may not be as good as the already high-end phones such Nokia Carl-Zeiss or SonyEriccson Cyber Shot phones?? Wait.. no Optical Zoom, for a phone that is 5 years ahead of its time? From the back, its just a tiny pin hole for a 2MP camera... the only pin hole camera size that can be that small and fit into a slim body is a VGA camera, that now is mainly found in the internal camera of a 3G phone that can be use as Video Calls. How can that be a 2MP camera?? Upscaled??

Still on the statement made by Mr Steve Jobs, such security mention above are not made for the iPhone, another security might be a finger print recognition that is already out in the market in Japan.. yes its a phone but he also did mention 5 years of its time.. maybe a software can be made for one to place its thumb on the Multi-Touch screen.. thats another Patent for you Mr Steve Jobs to add on the 200 Patents you already made on iPhone.

With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new kind of phone. Its an iPhone.
January 25, 2007 @ 02:02 PM
TheFly

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Join Date: May 2006

That 2000k for a year of iphone is all speculation, don't forget that.
There is already news/rumors that cingular will be offering a cheaper service for people who purchase the iphone.
January 25, 2007 @ 02:38 PM

Inactive

Time to count my pennies and start saving for............... the LG Prada phone. razz
January 31, 2007 @ 10:34 PM
siL.

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$1,500 + / year? no thanks.
February 1, 2007 @ 06:12 AM
Shaznizzle

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Location: Asia

Meizu M8



For a start the M8 has what the iPhone most obviously lacks: 3G, it also sports a 3.3in 720 x 480 high resolution touch screen and a three megapixel camera as well as PMP abilities. There’s an ARM 11 processor at its heart which is capable of recording video at 30fps and Bluetooth and WiFi make it onboard.
April 17, 2007 @ 09:26 AM
LIZZARD

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Join Date: Mar 2007

the problem with these phones is, if u drop it, you are FUCKED!! but good point about geting it from an apple store cuz they with have apple insurance..

also i wonder if the FIRST GENERATOIN will not be as good as the next generation that will probably come out a few months later than the first genereation with all the "kinks" and "glitches" worked out....

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