[5th Column] - 2010 Official Discussion Thread

September 13, 2010 @ 12:04:14 PM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] Stratagem
Think first, before you move.



Chess Stratagem should be a prerequisite in school.
September 13, 2010 @ 12:09:40 PM
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5th Column [DOWNFALL] Big Brother
"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

-George Orwell, 1984



Never before have these words rung so true.

"War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is peace."
September 13, 2010 @ 12:13:59 PM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] Welcome to the End


With every season..
September 13, 2010 @ 18:12:01 PM
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thanks Eric.

It was the greatest test of my lifetime for sure.



jah bless
September 13, 2010 @ 21:55:46 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User


[WELCOME TO THE END]
Pullover Hoods



How much these fleece gonna go for, Jason? Trying to pick up atleast one item from the collection for now, and hopefully cop more later when my speeding tickets are paid off.
September 13, 2010 @ 23:40:18 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

-George Orwell, 1984



Never before have these words rung so true.

"War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is peace."


Reading this in school now, already one of my favorite books ever.
September 13, 2010 @ 23:59:06 PM
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Oh, and yet another deep question from me Jason...No hate towards it obviously (I buy it and I like the freshness, as well as the DGAF appeal) but what exactly is the reason for all the, I guess, Satanic shit that goes on to some of the product. I mean, why use such dark topics? I show this shit to my friends because I'm so into it, and sometimes they question all the dark imagery, and I honestly can't think of a bette explanation other than I like that, which should be enough, but I would just like to know a deeper meaning.
September 14, 2010 @ 00:02:22 AM
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Reading this in school now, already one of my favorite books ever.


$65 on the fleece..

That's dope, 1984 is epic. I received an email from a girl talking to about Orwell, and Animal Farm, She was telling me they wouldn't allow the book to be read in her school, they would assign excerpts for class.. that's scary..
September 14, 2010 @ 00:16:04 AM
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schools dont want you to read anything except the same 5 or 10 fairytale stories. my freshman english teacher opened me up to bukowski at 15 yrs old. she wasnt allowed to even promote such literature according to the school.

crazy what they dont want you to know.
September 14, 2010 @ 00:19:14 AM
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schools dont want you to read anything except the same 5 or 10 fairytale stories. my freshman english teacher opened me up to bukowski at 15 yrs old. she wasnt allowed to even promote such literature according to the school.

crazy what they dont want you to know.


Yeah, def. The only reason I'm permitted to be assigned to read 1984 is because I "elected" to take an AP course. Otherwise, they wouldn't have it. Fuck censorship.
September 14, 2010 @ 00:47:45 AM
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Oh, and yet another deep question from me Jason...No hate towards it obviously (I buy it and I like the freshness, as well as the DGAF appeal) but what exactly is the reason for all the, I guess, Satanic shit that goes on to some of the product. I mean, why use such dark topics? I show this shit to my friends because I'm so into it, and sometimes they question all the dark imagery, and I honestly can't think of a bette explanation other than I like that, which should be enough, but I would just like to know a deeper meaning.


It depends on what your imagery you're talking about about..
The dragons? I guess they look dark, but they can also represent protection as well as destruction.. the story behind them and 5th column goes pretty deep/ BACK STAB is still only in it's 1st stage.. We plan on moving to stage 2 soon which will be a progression of the graphic and the concept..

Teach children; is an oxymoron of sorts..

The Blood Pentacle; I used that as a logo for [War Support] for a few reasons.. one obviously being the homage to Slayer... but maybe also to demonize Amerika as a war culture..

Sometimes looking at the dark side of life can be very illuminating..
September 14, 2010 @ 00:49:01 AM
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schools dont want you to read anything except the same 5 or 10 fairytale stories. my freshman english teacher opened me up to bukowski at 15 yrs old. she wasnt allowed to even promote such literature according to the school.

crazy what they dont want you to know.


You should see my Bukowski collection; I like Factotum & Women..
September 14, 2010 @ 00:51:40 AM
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women is so dope. i LOVE born into this. such an intuitive piece and reflection on his life and his ideals. ive probably watched it like 10 times. dude is killer inspiration. and i really enjoyed "war all the time"
September 14, 2010 @ 00:59:29 AM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
It depends on what your imagery you're talking about about..
The dragons? I guess they look dark, but they can also represent protection as well as destruction.. the story behind them and 5th column goes pretty deep/ BACK STAB is still only in it's 1st stage.. We plan on moving to stage 2 soon which will be a progression of the graphic and the concept..

Teach children; is an oxymoron of sorts..

The Blood Pentacle; I used that as a logo for [War Support] for a few reasons.. one obviously being the homage to Slayer... but maybe also to demonize Amerika as a war culture..

Sometimes looking at the dark side of life can be very illuminating..


I'm missing how teach children...is an oxymoron...help?

And thanks as always Jason, always glad to have my questions answered.

Oh, and do you listen to any Immortal Technique smokeyface?
September 14, 2010 @ 08:59:02 AM
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I'm missing how teach children...is an oxymoron...help?

And thanks as always Jason, always glad to have my questions answered.

Oh, and do you listen to any Immortal Technique smokeyface?


[Teach Children] for me has always been more of a question than a statement..
It has many different meanings for different people; I was always intrigued on how many people
put a positive spin on it. When Anwar first saw it he explained me what it meant to him and it was a totally new way of looking at it.. So I guess it that way it can be perceived as having both positive and negative
connotations..

Immortal tech yea I've heard of them..think he's a spanish rapper?
September 14, 2010 @ 18:19:27 PM
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So what was Anwar's take on it? This is to him to if he checks in on this thread before you. Thanks again,

...and he's Peruvian I'm pretty sure, but his shit is just really political and what not. Thought you might be a little into him.
September 14, 2010 @ 19:22:38 PM
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So what was Anwar's take on it? This is to him to if he checks in on this thread before you. Thanks again,

...and he's Peruvian I'm pretty sure, but his shit is just really political and what not. Thought you might be a little into him.


Ahhh yea I forget where I heard his stuff I might have even seen him live.. Yea def like it..
Anwar should respond to that one, I just remember his take on that concept was eye opening. I got the idea for teach from the Dwarves "The Crucifixion is now"....
September 14, 2010 @ 19:23:30 PM
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Henry Chinaski is the man.
September 14, 2010 @ 20:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
Ahhh yea I forget where I heard his stuff I might have even seen him live.. Yea def like it..
Anwar should respond to that one, I just remember his take on that concept was eye opening. I got the idea for teach from the Dwarves "The Crucifixion is now"....


Haha yeah, he makes some good music.
Next time I see anwar pop in here, i'll try and catch him.
September 14, 2010 @ 21:16:52 PM
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So what was Anwar's take on it? This is to him to if he checks in on this thread before you. Thanks again,

...and he's Peruvian I'm pretty sure, but his shit is just really political and what not. Thought you might be a little into him.


I took what i saw and thought below the surface. what america is doing is teaching kids to worship satan. we have television shows that display explicit things such as homosexuality for example to the public as if it's okay. Only in America... we have easy access to porn sites that kids can also go visit freely. So the tee shirt to me is like a warning, you keep teaching the youth ignorance; sexual content ; etc...that's what we'll have on earth... hell
September 14, 2010 @ 21:18:53 PM
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i don't know if that made any sense... here's an example of teaching kids to worship satan http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/27391, that is easy accessible. Pause for the content but that shit is ridiculous yo lol.
September 14, 2010 @ 21:20:24 PM
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^^
wow that shit is disgusting!

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September 14, 2010 @ 21:21:53 PM
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thats the realest shit ive heard from you Anwar. Probably bc Twitter only allows 140 characters. haha
September 14, 2010 @ 21:23:19 PM
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTy8mL31QpAYsrcJ2

this as well also... kids are easily influenced...
September 14, 2010 @ 21:23:49 PM
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thats the realest shit ive heard from you Anwar. Probably bc Twitter only allows 140 characters. haha


hahaha smokeyface
September 14, 2010 @ 22:01:03 PM
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Thanks for responding to that, Anwar. Thanks, man. That was def. some real talk.
September 14, 2010 @ 22:07:03 PM
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the way geoff explained it to me made a lot of sense. but by then it was allll sold out when III just dropped.
September 14, 2010 @ 22:11:34 PM
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I took what i saw and thought below the surface. what america is doing is teaching kids to worship satan. we have television shows that display explicit things such as homosexuality for example to the public as if it's okay. Only in America... we have easy access to porn sites that kids can also go visit freely. So the tee shirt to me is like a warning, you keep teaching the youth ignorance; sexual content ; etc...that's what we'll have on earth... hell


Brilliant God.
September 15, 2010 @ 06:27:43 AM

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I took what i saw and thought below the surface. what america is doing is teaching kids to worship satan. we have television shows that display explicit things such as homosexuality for example to the public as if it's okay. Only in America... we have easy access to porn sites that kids can also go visit freely. So the tee shirt to me is like a warning, you keep teaching the youth ignorance; sexual content ; etc...that's what we'll have on earth... hell


Wait please forgive me if I am wrong, but did you just compare homosexuality to satan?
September 15, 2010 @ 10:20:41 AM
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Wait please forgive me if I am wrong, but did you just compare homosexuality to satan?


Islam equates homosexuality with Satan; so do Baptists...Religion in general I'd say is homophobic...
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