[5th Column] - 2010 Official Discussion Thread

September 10, 2010 @ 13:15:36 PM
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so so sick.
September 10, 2010 @ 13:33:41 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User

Nice.
September 10, 2010 @ 14:20:21 PM
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dope, picture tees are my fav

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September 10, 2010 @ 15:45:31 PM
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51st State

September 10, 2010 @ 17:43:58 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
sick. Realease?


dta fall/holiday
September 10, 2010 @ 17:46:15 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
51st State



?) Hoodies are not here yet. Release pushed: Sept. 18th
Unless you want Part V [DOWNFALL] without hoodz?? Nahh..
September 10, 2010 @ 18:04:35 PM
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damn ill be in NY for the drop

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September 10, 2010 @ 18:12:09 PM
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damn ill be in NY for the drop


Perfect.. haaa You'll get a hand delivery, service with a smile yo.
September 10, 2010 @ 18:14:39 PM
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would u be down for a meet up jay? ill have cash in hand....no homo

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September 10, 2010 @ 19:52:53 PM
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would u be down for a meet up jay? ill have cash in hand....no homo


Always down to meet the disciples.. If your in BK you should roll by the space, there should be a show at the gallery...
September 10, 2010 @ 19:56:35 PM
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word, ill hit u up on twitter on the 18th

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September 11, 2010 @ 02:35:40 AM
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We have not forgotten.
September 11, 2010 @ 07:33:10 AM
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We have not forgotten.


Never.
September 11, 2010 @ 08:08:31 AM

Inactive User

Going to be in NYC on Monday and most definitely plan on going to ground zero. Have not been there since 9/11 took place. My entire family worked in or around where they stood.
September 11, 2010 @ 10:05:00 AM
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Jason, I would like to say that you and your mother must be strong individuals experiencing something like that. My thoughts go out to everyone who experienced 9/11 as well.

We will NEVER forget.
September 11, 2010 @ 10:41:21 AM
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Jason, I would like to say that you and your mother must be strong individuals experiencing something like that. My thoughts go out to everyone who experienced 9/11 as well.

We will NEVER forget.


thanks Eric.

It was the greatest test of my lifetime for sure.

September 11, 2010 @ 10:47:26 AM
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Going to be in NYC on Monday and most definitely plan on going to ground zero. Have not been there since 9/11 took place. My entire family worked in or around where they stood.


The site is actually making some progress now.. it's pretty amazing to see all the massive cranes together. the risers of both tower 1 & 4 can be seen now.
September 11, 2010 @ 14:13:38 PM
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Going to be in NYC on Monday and most definitely plan on going to ground zero. Have not been there since 9/11 took place. My entire family worked in or around where they stood.


ill be checking ground zero while im in NYC also, i have never been

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September 11, 2010 @ 14:28:55 PM
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i can't recall ever being in a place that gave me the same feeling that ground zero did. when i was there, i had goosebumps and literally didn't say one word the whole time i was there. one of the craziest places to visit.
September 11, 2010 @ 17:22:17 PM
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from a few years back when it was just a 'Pit'. there is finally some visible progress now..
September 12, 2010 @ 02:50:23 AM
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got my order today from the sale and holy balls there was an extra shirt.
Thank you and please keep the discussion going. shit wont change until more know whats wrong and enough decide to do something about it. Actions>words.
September 12, 2010 @ 03:53:00 AM
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Really nice shots Jay. Can't wait to get out there and see it for myself one day.
September 12, 2010 @ 08:05:26 AM
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got my order today from the sale and holy balls there was an extra shirt.
Thank you and please keep the discussion going. shit wont change until more know whats wrong and enough decide to do something about it. Actions>words.


Yes sir, it was a good labor dayblushing

I agree with that, it's all about talk these days. People waste too much time looking in the mirror and talking about themselves they lose sight of what's going on in the real world. We lost our chance to learn from 9/11 so we're most likely going to get another lesson soon.
September 12, 2010 @ 10:53:06 AM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
Really nice shots Jay. Can't wait to get out there and see it for myself one day.


Thanks Jozae
September 12, 2010 @ 12:33:36 PM
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Originally posted by Inactive User
?) Hoodies are not here yet. Release pushed: Sept. 18th
Unless you want Part V [DOWNFALL] without hoodz?? Nahh..


i was waiting around throughout the day for part V to drop but it never came. Guess i missed this post. whoopstongueface
September 12, 2010 @ 13:12:27 PM
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i was waiting around throughout the day for part V to drop but it never came. Guess i missed this post. whoopstongueface


haa Logistics.
It's like Stalingrad out here..Supply trains got stuck in the mud. on it's way..
Thanks for your patience..
September 13, 2010 @ 10:26:53 AM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] 51 State
[51st STATE]

('Peppering the LZ' or landing zone was a term used a lot in Vietnam. Before landing troops, Amerikan helicopters would clear out a landing area applying gunfire in and around an enemy position to suppress it. This same tactic was used on a grand scale in Iraq which once had the 4th largest military in the world. Over the years, through political interference, a phyrric war with neighboring IRAN, UN sanctions, British and Amerikan Air campaigns under President Clinton, 2 invasions Iraq was softened up enough to were all we had to do was drive our supply train straight into the Capital, praying you didn't run over and IED, of course. A war is when TWO armies meet on a battlefield.


*1990, 24th of July: State Department spokeswoman Margaret Tutweiler, in response to a question, responded: "We do not have any defense treaties with Kuwait, and there are no special defense or security commitments to Kuwait." Asked whether the United States would help Kuwait if it were attacked, she said: "We also remain strongly committed to supporting the individual and collective self-defense of our friends in the gulf with whom we have deep and longstanding ties" -- a statement that some Kuwaiti officials said privately was too weak.

This exchange in 1990, was a clear sign the United States was planning an overthrow.


[Under Article IV, Section Three of the United States Constitution, which outlines the relationship among the states, Congress has the power to admit new states to the union. The states are required to give "full faith and credit" to the acts of each other's legislatures and courts, which is generally held to include the recognition of legal contracts, marriages, and criminal judgments. The states are guaranteed military and civil defense by the federal government, which is also obligated by Article IV, Section Four, to "guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government." New states are admitted into the Union by the precedents and procedures established by the Northwest Ordinance. Following the precedent established by the Enabling Act of 1802, an Enabling Act must be passed by Congress as a prerequisite to admission. The act authorizes the people of a territory to frame a constitution, and lays down the requirements that must be met prior to consideration for statehood.]

This declassified document is one of many detailing US influence in Iraqi affairs. From Iraqi banking laws, construction contracts, border disputes, crude export to it’s war with neighboring Iran, Amerikan involvement in Iraq began decades before Bush|Clinton waged war with Saddam Hussein. From meddling President Nixon then Ford, Invasions by George HW Bush (Desert Fox & Storm) 8 Years of bombing in the NFZ's ( NO FLY ZONE ) by President Bill Clinton under Operations Northern and Southern Watch, The Bombing of Baghdad also under Clinton finally ending with Operation Iraqi Freedom under George W. Bush the plan for Iraq was no one leaders adventure, but Amerikan policy. The plan hatched way before most of us were paying attention. In most cases the Amerikan public, as always, was bamboozled into blaming each other for a conquering war we ALL supported at one time or another. The Iraqi's are now patching together a government compliant to the rules, paid in full and under the watchful eye of the United States.

September 13, 2010 @ 10:40:30 AM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] War Support
[Camp Slayer is a US camp on the southeastern corner of the Baghdad International Airport.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpMuCrbxE8A

Propaganda death ensemble
Burial to be
Corpses rotting through the night
In blood laced misery
Scorched earth the policy
The reason for the singe
The pendulum it shaves the blade
The strafing air blood raid

Infiltration push reserves
Encircle the front lines
Supreme art of strategy
Playing on the minds
Bombard till submission
Take all to their graves
Indication of triumph
The number that are dead

[Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's a massacre
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill]

Be dead friend from above
When darkness falls
Descend into my sights
Your fallen walls
Spearhead break through the lines
Flanked all around
Soldiers of attrition
Forward their ground
Regime prophetic age
Old in its time
Flowing veins run on through
Deep in the Rhine
Center of the web
All battles scored
What is our war crimes
(Era forever more...war)

During Desert Storm, Amerikan Pilots were overheard playing Slayer's 'Angel of Death' on walk-mans while on bombing runs over Baghdad.

September 13, 2010 @ 11:10:35 AM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] Methods
"The Water Cure"
Antwerp, 1556


America's 'Enhanced interrogation techniques', misstated as mass torture, hit the headlines during the Iraqi Freedom after photos from Abu Ghraib were leaked.

No matter what you choose to call it, the extraction of information through interrogation has been used since society began. The British used torture on enemies for hundreds of years, The Germans had their Gestapo tactic and Japanese Empire 'Unit 731' for all types of experiments involving human tolerance for pain. A nation state should be prepared to use all means necessary to extract information during war time. In prisons today, inmates are conditioned with a kind of silent torture that a human will find almost impossible to ever recover from, but the same bleeding hearts who complained about terrorists with panties on their head, water-boarding and sleep depravation, really have no care for their own citizens locked in Amerikan prisons. In reality some Amerikans try to trick you into thinking these interrogations are used only on 'innocent iraqi's' while completely over looking 80 years of a virtual police state here within her borders, they are afraid of any confrontation with the beast. Whining and moaning never brought down a system.
September 13, 2010 @ 11:56:02 AM
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5th Column V [DOWNFALL] Propaganda


Winning the Vietnam war: The propaganda and genius of Ho Chi Minh and General Giap.

This “historical amnesia” is not accidental; if anything it demonstrates the insidious power of the dominant propaganda of the Vietnam war. The constant American government line was that the war was essentially a conflict of Vietnamese against Vietnamese, in which Americans became 'involved', mistakenly and honourably. This assumption was shared both by “hawks” and “doves”; it permeated the media coverage during the war and has been the overriding theme of numerous retrospectives since the war. It is a false and frequently dishonest assumption. The longest war this century was a war waged by America against Vietnam, North and South. It was an attack on the people of Vietnam, communist and non-communist, by American forces. It was an invasion of their homeland and their lives, just as the current presence in Afghanistan of Soviet forces is an invasion. Neither began as a mistake.

-John Pilger

The most powerful and effective form of disinformation & propaganda is utilized during peacetime. The ancient Romans controlled the mob with 'Bread & Circus' today the Amerikan government controls you though CNN.
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