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That's a really nice fit
the problem is that anything below me knees prob wont stretch back out, it'll prob stay skin tight looking..which isnt what im going for
ya i think so too, but the problem is these need to be soaked which means theyre going to get tighter...i havent decided if im going to exchange yet
btw how are your skulls doing? i would kill for a brand new pair of skulls size 31 in the old texas cotton like the ones i sold u
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I'm assuming you're going to order 1 wash 007? size down 1, get size 28 because 1 wash size 28 is a 29 waist. But it will also stretch out a bit so it should fit nice and relaxed, I'm a size 29 and I tried on a 1 wash size 28 at big and they fit great, a bit tight but it will stretch.
autobot tom, may i ask how you sized on your apc ns? I want the same fit as you lol.
If you want you could also try the blue in green xx-013, it's the same fit as pbj/005/007 and it's produced by pbj (shoaiya japan), slightly cheaper.
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just got a pair of BiGxPBJ XX-013 in the mail today, i really like how they fit raw....but of course i have to soak em so these 31s are probably going to be exchanged for a 32
pardon the man-gina, these things are stiff as hell
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my new standard pair doesnt have a size tag on it i dont know why.
these are pics of day 1 fit. after about 1 hr of streching i finally buttoned up.![]()
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hope they help. sorry bout the nasty boxer hahahh.
guess it was sz26 and im 5'7 you can see my true waist pic in last page there. i have a pair of new cure sz25 which is much smaller than this new standard pair.
thanks your advice on pbj
pbj x take5? looks interesting

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im going to recive my 007s tomorrow.
a question here, what should i do first after i get them? i mean the soaking thing.
just put them into hot water for an hour or something? some guys told me to put in a washing machine after hot soak. i dont really know to use the washing machine in my house, it has a auto system that does spin dying after every wash - -
does it matter a lot if i just soak without a wash in the pre shrink?
thanks!
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