The Official Levi's Thread

Sep 13, 2010 @ 02:05
Sep 13, 2010 @ 08:43
Quick question. I'm a little confused between the rigid, Stf, and unwashed color on the amazon site. What's the difference?


What is the difference between Raw, Rigid, Dry, and Washed denim?

* Raw denim is what you buy when you buy your new 501xx Shrink to Fits. This cotton denim has been completely untreated and unwashed which is why it will shrink so much during the first soak. It has a lighter hue than after the soak.
* Rigid and Dry denim are the same as far as I can tell. They are similar to the soaked STFs. Basically they are still quite stiff and will continue to shrink and change over time with washing but are much closer to the size they will remain. They may be stiff but in no time they will feel quite comfortable. Many jeans companies sell rigid jeans including wrangler for a similar price point and other for considerably more.
* Washed and Pre-washed 501′s have essentially been machine washed before you bought them. They feel like most jeans you have bought and worn in the past.

-http://501xx.info/blog/levis-501xx-shrink-to-fit-faq/
Sep 13, 2010 @ 09:35
Thanks for the info, but I already know what the differences between raw rigid etc.. I've owned a pair apc's for a while. I'm confused on how they labeled their colors on the amazon site.

One color is labeled rigid stf at 37$ and the other color is stf at 50$. I'm wondering what the difference is between the two labeled colors or if there isn't. Because essentially they look the same and I'm wondering if they mislabeled the denim
Sep 13, 2010 @ 10:43
lol you're right that is quite confusing. no clue there.
Sep 13, 2010 @ 12:10
Sep 13, 2010 @ 17:43
^thanks
Sep 14, 2010 @ 09:49

Inactive User

Sep 14, 2010 @ 11:15
Originally posted by Inactive User
What is the difference between Raw, Rigid, Dry, and Washed denim?

* Raw denim is what you buy when you buy your new 501xx Shrink to Fits. This cotton denim has been completely untreated and unwashed which is why it will shrink so much during the first soak. It has a lighter hue than after the soak.
* Rigid and Dry denim are the same as far as I can tell. They are similar to the soaked STFs. Basically they are still quite stiff and will continue to shrink and change over time with washing but are much closer to the size they will remain. They may be stiff but in no time they will feel quite comfortable. Many jeans companies sell rigid jeans including wrangler for a similar price point and other for considerably more.
* Washed and Pre-washed 501′s have essentially been machine washed before you bought them. They feel like most jeans you have bought and worn in the past.

-http://501xx.info/blog/levis-501xx-shrink-to-fit-faq/


You're a bit off here...

* Dry/Raw denim - Pretty much the same thing. That means the denim is unwashed after the dyeing process.
* Unsanforized and sanforized - Unsanforized denim means it has been untreated and will shrink upon soak. Sanforized denim is pre-treated and means it's gone through the sanforizing process and nearly all the shrinkage is gone.
* Rigid denim is a term some companies use to describe their dark washed denim. Not raw, but still able to give you minimal fading due to the denim being dyed darker. Definitely not the same as raw denim.
Sep 14, 2010 @ 13:35
^ sounds good. I didn't write that up. Grabbed it from a site but good looks on the corrections.

too bad it wasn't his question though :\ .
Sep 14, 2010 @ 15:32
Originally posted by Inactive User
If it's too big for your liking, do a soak. How long did you wear it for?


I think this is the 3rd month with my STFs
Sep 14, 2010 @ 20:20
Originally posted by Inactive User
I would try 1 hot soak for an hour and see how they fit. I've done 2 soaks before and found that the denim loses a lot of the stiffness after a 2nd soak. If it's a nice day out, wear them around when they're wet(not dripping). It'll help with the creasing and you can force the stacks the way you want them.


Pics of my recently soaked STF. Sized down 1, 31x34.


are these the black or indigo wash? thats a good fit man

on a side note, first post lol
Sep 14, 2010 @ 20:24
thanks. indigo wash.
Sep 14, 2010 @ 20:29
Originally posted by Inactive User
thanks. indigo wash.


thanks man. online sites make it looks a lot lighter than it is.
Sep 14, 2010 @ 20:48
went to the Levis Outlet today and they had STF 501s $10 off making them $24.99. if anyone is looking for a pair they never go on sale at retail stores so $24.99 is pretty g0od
Sep 16, 2010 @ 12:10
Just got caught in a rain storm...guess I'm on my second soak smokeyface
Sep 16, 2010 @ 14:05
anyone know wtf the "rigid stf" and "stf" are actually supposed to be on amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Levis-Mens-Jean-Black-30x30/dp/B001H0FXBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1284663690&sr=8-1

also, if i usually wear a like a 31x32 in 514's and 32x32 in 511's what should i get for the stfs?
Sep 16, 2010 @ 14:56
What type of stf's shrink the most so it looks slim but not as slim as 511's?
and what size should i get if i am a 30x32 with cuffs?
Sep 16, 2010 @ 16:44
Just got caught in a rain storm...guess I'm on my second soak smokeyface


how are those jawns? still skin tight? throw up some pics.

also, if i usually wear a like a 31x32 in 514's and 32x32 in 511's what should i get for the stfs?


true waist size ( get a ruler and measure) and +2 to length.
size down 1 for slimmer fit.

What type of stf's shrink the most so it looks slim but not as slim as 511's?
and what size should i get if i am a 30x32 with cuffs?


29x34
Sep 18, 2010 @ 11:27
Originally posted by Inactive User
how are those jawns? still skin tight? throw up some pics.


i'm still loving them man, they are very comfortable now. not as tight but still a slim fit. i'm about a month in- wallet fade/honeycombs/whiskers are all coming in very nicely.
i'll post pics when i get around the 2 month mark so you can see the progress.

how are yours coming along?
Sep 20, 2010 @ 07:18
mine are good. getting looser by the day.
Sep 24, 2010 @ 18:00
I got two pair of stf's ,one indigo and one black pair in 32*36. I soaked the indogos and the inseam shrunk about 4 inches. Should i expect the same from the blacks? I heard black denim doesnt shrink as much...
Sep 24, 2010 @ 18:19
Just got my stf tailored.

Sep 24, 2010 @ 22:45
Would you still get the same affect without actually soaking 501stf's? Just wearing them how you bought it.
Sep 25, 2010 @ 09:41
Would you still get the same affect without actually soaking 501stf's? Just wearing them how you bought it.


Yeah, you'll get the same affect. There have been people who have done this. The biggest hassle that you'll run into is making sure they never get wet...cuz once they get wet, they'll shrink up and its game ovahhhhh
Sep 25, 2010 @ 12:05
It wouldn't be advised to not soak them before you wear them. Firstly, the fit of the jeans will look and feel horrible. Plus you will have to buy a perfect fit size meaning you will never wash the jeans since they shrink very significantly. Also if compensate for a bigger size and wear the jeans and then decide to soak them, your honeycombs and fades will be ruined due to the shrinkage of the jeans.

I do not see any benefits with not soaking the STFs when you purchase them. As a healthy pair of jeans need to be soaked to prevent crotch blow outs. Also when your pair of jeans get dirty, you will definitely want to wash them.
Sep 25, 2010 @ 13:18
not pre-soaking stf is a horrible idea, they fade and wear just fine after the soak
Sep 25, 2010 @ 15:11
Originally posted by Inactive User
It wouldn't be advised to not soak them before you wear them. Firstly, the fit of the jeans will look and feel horrible. Plus you will have to buy a perfect fit size meaning you will never wash the jeans since they shrink very significantly. Also if compensate for a bigger size and wear the jeans and then decide to soak them, your honeycombs and fades will be ruined due to the shrinkage of the jeans.

I do not see any benefits with not soaking the STFs when you purchase them. As a healthy pair of jeans need to be soaked to prevent crotch blow outs. Also when your pair of jeans get dirty, you will definitely want to wash them.


I see. Is there a way to not shrink the waist size? And if I were to size up, I can just go one up from what I usually wear, instead of TTS, right?
Sep 25, 2010 @ 16:07
I see. Is there a way to not shrink the waist size? And if I were to size up, I can just go one up from what I usually wear, instead of TTS, right?


Sizing on STF are very confusing. Levi's advises you to size up 1 on the waist and 3 on the length. However I've found that the waist does not shrink significantly.

If you're looking for a straight leg type fit, I'd stay TTS on width and size up 3 on the length.
(Personally I found that even after a couple of soaks, the jeans were too loose for my liking.)

If you're looking for a slimmer fit, I would size down 1 on the waist and +3 on the length. After the soak the waist will stretch back out fairly quickly. (This is the route I took.) http://hypebeast.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2656025&postcount=4773
Sep 25, 2010 @ 17:59
Does anyone know the difference between 29x29 Levi's 510s for adults, and the size 18 (29x29) Levi's Kids 510, if there is any? They're half the price of the adult ones so I'm wondering why. My sister said the legs on the kids ones might be wider?
Sep 25, 2010 @ 21:00
I got two pair of stf's ,one indigo and one black pair in 32*36. I soaked the indogos and the inseam shrunk about 4 inches. Should i expect the same from the blacks? I heard black denim doesnt shrink as much...


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