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June 20, 2011 @ 11:42 PM
camplo

Post: 57

Join Date: May 2011

soak your raw jeans before wear dude.

wtf?
June 21, 2011 @ 02:42 AM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

yeah an initial soak is inevitable with raw, unsanforized denim.

on another note, my S5000VX24oz have been shipped. So might be here by the end of the week
June 21, 2011 @ 03:14 AM
cuddlestheshee

Post: 1126

Join Date: Jun 2008

Location: Fallbrook CA

smh reron
June 21, 2011 @ 12:04 PM
Spankbank

Post: 3915

Join Date: Sep 2008

Location: Crooklyn

I would go with the 31. In my experience, Samurais shrink significantly in the waist when you first wash them, but they stretch back out to raw size pretty easily.

So a tts would give you that kind of fit(on 710xx)? I was assuming that was sized down 1. I'm really on the fence on buying sammies, don't know if I should bite the bullet.
June 21, 2011 @ 01:04 PM
infiniteme

Post: 575

Join Date: Sep 2010

Location: Anaheim, CA, USA

Hey guys, I just got a pair of S710XX and they have been an interesting start.

These jeans are extremely long, I'd say I'm a 32 inseam and on my Naked and Famous (34 inseam) I stacked them so they're fine. However these 19OZ denim look very baggy below the knees when I try to stack, should I go for a soak in order to try and shorten the inseam? Or should I just keep trying to wear and see how it works out from there. Or just find someone who can chain stitch in my city (Vancouver) to hem these jeans. If you want to see what I should do and need fit pics, ask and I'll take them.


You should definitely hot soak Samurais at least once or twice before you hem them or even wear them a lot. They are unsanforized, so they will shrink significantly in the inseam (2-3") when they touch hot water. You're going to want to get this shrinkage out of the way now so that your fades and your length stay in their proper places when you do wash the jeans further on down the road.

So a tts would give you that kind of fit(on 710xx)? I was assuming that was sized down 1. I'm really on the fence on buying sammies, don't know if I should bite the bullet.


It looks to me like they are sized down 1 as well, but the OP was between sizes and asked which was better between sizing up a half size and sizing down a half size. I feel that between the two, sizing down a half size would be better, so that's what I told him.
June 23, 2011 @ 03:40 PM
Reron

Post: 34

Join Date: Jun 2011

I haven't worn my jeans out yet, tags are still on. Going to give 1 soak and see how the inseam shrinks, the waist right is really tight so I'm scared I might not be able to get into them after the hot soak.

How hot should the water be.
June 23, 2011 @ 03:52 PM
Mikeyone4life

Post: 2650

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: LA

I haven't worn my jeans out yet, tags are still on. Going to give 1 soak and see how the inseam shrinks, the waist right is really tight so I'm scared I might not be able to get into them after the hot soak.

How hot should the water be.


If the waist is already really tight you might need to return them considering it takes several soaks to get maximum shrinkage out. You might want to do 2 hot water soaks.
June 23, 2011 @ 06:47 PM
whoRichard?

Post: 2114

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: 714

Samurais s710xx, 6 months, being washed now!

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June 23, 2011 @ 08:36 PM
oranj

Post: 38

Join Date: Sep 2008

I haven't worn my jeans out yet, tags are still on. Going to give 1 soak and see how the inseam shrinks, the waist right is really tight so I'm scared I might not be able to get into them after the hot soak.

How hot should the water be.

If the waist is already really tight you might need to return them considering it takes several soaks to get maximum shrinkage out. You might want to do 2 hot water soaks.


yeah i'd be cautious of shrinking htem too much if i were you

my pair was still shrinking after the 2nd or 3rd hot wash, not even mentioning any soaks
June 23, 2011 @ 09:01 PM
alwayZz

Post: 728

Join Date: May 2009

im on the edge on ordering s710.. idk if i should order them from rakuten or BiG.. i see the ones from BiG dont have tabs nor arcs... or thats just the picture? blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=6788&category_id=&manufacturer_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

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June 23, 2011 @ 09:40 PM
laxlife1234

Post: 993

Join Date: Aug 2010

NOt sure, but I think you can have the tab put in on the 710 from BIG. They should come with arcs though?...

But if you order from rakuten the downside is the wait, communication (unless they speak english or you speak Japanese), and that you are probably going to have to pay custom fees, so it will eventually come out to the same price as the ones from BiG.

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June 24, 2011 @ 01:00 AM
Spankbank

Post: 3915

Join Date: Sep 2008

Location: Crooklyn

im on the edge on ordering s710.. idk if i should order them from rakuten or BiG.. i see the ones from BiG dont have tabs nor arcs... or thats just the picture? blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=6788&category_id=&manufacturer_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28


I'm in the same boat as you, but what are the tabs/arcs you're talking about?
June 24, 2011 @ 01:37 AM
Silence

Post: 1275

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: Southern California

im on the edge on ordering s710.. idk if i should order them from rakuten or BiG.. i see the ones from BiG dont have tabs nor arcs... or thats just the picture? blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=6788&category_id=&manufacturer_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

BiG 710's come with arcs and tabs now. The pictures haven't been updated on the site for awhile.

If you order from Rakuten, it will end up being cheaper. Just make sure you order the right size.

Gordon at BiG is very helpful with sizing help and exchanges/returns. I personally would support BiG, they're cool people.

Edit: Heres the pair I picked up last month.


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June 24, 2011 @ 01:46 AM
alwayZz

Post: 728

Join Date: May 2009

oh i see, much thanks for the info.

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June 24, 2011 @ 03:33 AM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

officialy, Samurais are sold without the arcs&tabs outside of Japan because of the Levi's lawsuit.
But BiG now kinda "ignores" it just to please you guys. It's a open secret. But of course he don't want to show it on his website to get in trouble. So keep it quiet
June 25, 2011 @ 01:16 AM
alwayZz

Post: 728

Join Date: May 2009

just ordered them from BiG =]

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June 25, 2011 @ 05:03 AM
cheab0yy

Post: 364

Join Date: Apr 2008

hey guys im debating if i should get a size 34 or 35 samurai 710s.... but i cant decide.. i want it to be slim but comfurtable.. i cant fit a 33 for sure.. and i own a pair of s5000 fire element in 35(hotwash) and the waist is alright but i want the whole leg to be more slim n tapered ... and i got 35 because i sag a little can someone please help...

nohomo but i want it to fit like this i34.tinypic.com/2462fwm.jpg
June 25, 2011 @ 06:50 AM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

I'd say go with a 35. the S710 cut is slimmer in the legs from the get go so no need to size down in comparison to your S5000 if that pair already fit good in the waist
June 25, 2011 @ 03:36 PM
cheab0yy

Post: 364

Join Date: Apr 2008

thanks bro and eim about to hot wash em too
June 27, 2011 @ 03:44 PM
alwayZz

Post: 728

Join Date: May 2009

my samurai just came in today, sz30 and i can't button up the top button. will they stretch after the soak? or i should exchange for a 31?

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June 27, 2011 @ 03:57 PM
cuddlestheshee

Post: 1126

Join Date: Jun 2008

Location: Fallbrook CA

cant button them before a soak? probably should exchange for a 31 but thats just my .02
June 27, 2011 @ 04:29 PM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

definately exchange
June 28, 2011 @ 03:15 PM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

First review of the S5000VX24oz


I just put them on and it was a fight. Some of my jeans shrank to a smaller size than these but there was no problem to buttom them up and stretch them. I really needed some minutes till I could button these 24oz beast up.
They are now raping my hip ;-) I think it's my slimmest Samurai fit I currently own.

The denim is very thick and rigid but also not as slubby&irregular as the other Samurai denim. I think it's the same with the PBJ and SG heavy denim. Both brands are also known for slubby and irregular denim but the heavier, the cleaner the denim is woven. Maybe because the looms are already under such heavy stress that irregular yarns would torture the looms too much.

Measurements
waist: 34 / 33
front rise: 11,5 / 10,75
back rise: 15 / 14
thigh: 13 / 12,5
knee: 9,5 / <9,5
leg opening: 9 / 8,75
inseam: 37,5 / 35,75


Pre-soak fit pics
June 28, 2011 @ 03:43 PM
laxlife1234

Post: 993

Join Date: Aug 2010

They are looking really good b_f! Really looking to post-soak pics.

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June 28, 2011 @ 04:04 PM
cuddlestheshee

Post: 1126

Join Date: Jun 2008

Location: Fallbrook CA

yeah i think those will look fuckin awesome post soak and when those stacks begin to settle.
June 28, 2011 @ 10:22 PM
drew?

Post: 650

Join Date: Feb 2009

Location: SACRAMENTO

b_F


That fit is fucking ideal. How did you size on those?

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June 29, 2011 @ 05:28 AM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

I'm a true size 35 so these aer SDO. I wouldn't recomemnd it as for now. if they stretch back easily then I will tell you about it. So far I would say go TTS, as these shrink FROM tag size
June 29, 2011 @ 11:52 AM
b_F

Post: 56

Join Date: Dec 2010

Post soak fit:



As you can imagine and see, still very stiff and needs a bit stretch for a better look from tha back ;)


And little give-aways from 2ND
July 2, 2011 @ 05:24 PM
BIGBERTHA

Post: 26

Join Date: Jul 2010

FYI, I put up my pair of 710s in market. Sz 32. Only worn few times.
July 5, 2011 @ 05:24 PM
alwayZz

Post: 728

Join Date: May 2009

finally^.^... soaking right now

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