The Official Naked & Famous Denim Thread

Your only rebuttal is to discount my opinion, yet you've offered nothing as to why you recommend never to let raw denim touch water.

Darklite and myself both pointed out that the denim gains rigidity through the process of the fibers contracting from touching water and subsequently drying. This is a fact.

Furthermore, the absence of water touching the denim will cause the denim more likely to have rips and crotch blow outs. This is another fact.

I own the exact same pair of denim PUR3GEN31US does, along with 3 of my friends. If you are not willing to accept the facts that are presented as is, then I at the very least can make recommendations from my own personal experience from the same pair I own. Additionally Kiya from Self Edge and Gordon from Blue In Green who are revered in the denim boards both recommend washing and soaking jeans when the need arises. My friend who owns the same pair who has never touched water has an enormous hole in the crotch, perhaps that might be sheer coincidence or perhaps it's from the denim never touching water.

Let me assume your objections to having denim touch water. Loss of indigo correct? Since you don't own the same pair, then you don't know that Weird Guy Indigo are extremely stubborn and lose indigo very slowly in contract to the Deep Indigo and 21 oz. In fact, after 2 cold soaks and 1 wash I have barely lost any indigo.

Let me reiterate again that I am recommending for PUR3GEN31US to do a cold soak with a splash of Woolite Dark, not to wash his denim.

While putting his jeans in the freezer will eliminate odor, it will not eliminate the existing grime, sweat, dirt that has penetrated the fabric of the denim itself which is what causes the denim to lose its in integrity in areas of heavy agitation. This is a fact.

I can only assume based on the list of denim you've owned and your own recommendations you have never witnessed the effects of raw denim touching water. Otherwise you would know that after drying the denim it becomes hard like cardboard which only corroborates with my advice that it will strengthen the integrity of the denim. This is also a fact.

You can believe that everything I have to say is conjecture and never wash or soak your jeans. That's fine, that's your prerogative.

Darklite and myself both pointed out that the denim gains rigidity through the process of the fibers contracting from touching water and subsequently drying. This is a fact.

Furthermore, the absence of water touching the denim will cause the denim more likely to have rips and crotch blow outs. This is another fact.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that I am recommending him to COLD SOAK his jeans and NOT telling him to throw it in the washing machine? I've said this 3 times now, yet your rebuttal still focuses on washing versus not washing for higher contrast fades.

You're all retarded. Stop giving bad advice ok.

This is what happens when you don't wash your denim when you should:



You should see my friend's indigo worn for over 1.5 years no wash. Giant gaping hole in your crotch doesn't compensate for similar results in fading.

On the other hand why should I have to offer evidence when I'm merely giving my opinion.

Correlation is not causation, I concur. But you can't deny the fact that you are more likely to have rips and crotch blow outs when you don't wash the denim for prolonged periods of time. No idiot would even dare refuting that. You wish to try?

That is an undeniable fact.

ok not that this "pots vs. uncmn" argument is my business or anything, and i know neither of you are lookin for/care if people take your side, but i'm goin to have to back pots.

read #1 & #5 uncmn. www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=12920

and that's some nice wear on your friend's indi's pots. and is it going to get washed or soaked?

let me ask a question
How do i acheive fades?

after a while soak them or wash them to see the results???

is soaking meant to clean the denim or to bring the fade out? im confused

No hate but I think you was the only one taking it like that, I felt the way he was explaining was trying to be helpful but you came in and talked like you knew everything without even taking what he said in consideration. But it's all good now

Anyone have a selvage line shot of the grey weird guys?