The Official Naked & Famous Denim Thread

Dec 30, 2009 @ 12:07
the way you sized, nope
i think you're supposed to size down 1 or 2
Dec 30, 2009 @ 12:20
i actually met brandon, and he said that urban was begging him to sell naked and famous to them, and he said it would never happen. i guess this was their little compromise.



understandable. definitely a less opportunistic angle, and id much rather believe he's taking them down from the inside anyhow. or maybe he'll change some of their chinamakin ways.

contrarily, what irks me mostly is that for the people who construct naked and famous in canada, its easily conceivable for them to go out and buy a pair. for their asian counterparts who make unbranded, even tho its half the price, much less so. and these asian factories like to give you 16 hour shifts,and they like to not give bathroom breaks, and they like to fire sick people, and right now their average offering wage is $0.44/h.

that means that today,the minimum wage in quebec where i believe N&F is made, a laborer could save a modest 10% of their $9 an hour, eight hours a day, five days a week for three weeks to earn the cash in cad to buy a pair of unbranded. alternately, if that average asian laborer saved an optimistic 10% (or 4.4 cents) of their income every hour, 16 hours a day, with no weekends, it would take 3 and a half months to raise the same amount .

ive paid my premium to support brandon and companies like his to make sure UO and their factories dont get that support. and now theyre getting it anyhow, is what irks me. what does brandon say about that?
Dec 30, 2009 @ 12:35
just bought the wierd guy grey selvage , my true size is a 30 but i sized up to a 31,do they fit like the apc NS?


You basically bought a size 33, do the math son
Dec 30, 2009 @ 12:57
the fit guide on revolve doesn't say anything about waist being bigger or smaller, and it just states that they tend to run smaller, what math?


http://www.revolveclothing.com/DisplayProduct.jsp?product=NAKE-MJ7&c=Naked+%26+Famous&d=b
Dec 30, 2009 @ 13:19
nvm just saw BiG fitguide
Dec 30, 2009 @ 13:32
understandable. definitely a less opportunistic angle, and id much rather believe he's taking them down from the inside anyhow. or maybe he'll change some of their chinamakin ways.

contrarily, what irks me mostly is that for the people who construct naked and famous in canada, its easily conceivable for them to go out and buy a pair. for their asian counterparts who make unbranded, even tho its half the price, much less so. and these asian factories like to give you 16 hour shifts,and they like to not give bathroom breaks, and they like to fire sick people, and right now their average offering wage is $0.44/h.

that means that today,the minimum wage in quebec where i believe N&F is made, a laborer could save a modest 10% of their $9 an hour, eight hours a day, five days a week for three weeks to earn the cash in cad to buy a pair of unbranded. alternately, if that average asian laborer saved and optimistic 10% (or 4.4 cents) of their income every hour, 16 hours a day, with no weekends, it would take 3 and a half months to raise the same amount .

ive paid my premium to support brandon and companies like his to make sure UO and their facorties dont get that support. and now theyre getting it anyhow, is what irks me. what does brandon say about that?


Damn, I actually bought the UO ones because of the differential in pricing for the deep indigos. Definitely going to be my only pair from them, its crazy how low factory workers get paid in china
Dec 30, 2009 @ 21:15
understandable. definitely a less opportunistic angle, and id much rather believe he's taking them down from the inside anyhow. or maybe he'll change some of their chinamakin ways.

contrarily, what irks me mostly is that for the people who construct naked and famous in canada, its easily conceivable for them to go out and buy a pair. for their asian counterparts who make unbranded, even tho its half the price, much less so. and these asian factories like to give you 16 hour shifts,and they like to not give bathroom breaks, and they like to fire sick people, and right now their average offering wage is $0.44/h.

that means that today,the minimum wage in quebec where i believe N&F is made, a laborer could save a modest 10% of their $9 an hour, eight hours a day, five days a week for three weeks to earn the cash in cad to buy a pair of unbranded. alternately, if that average asian laborer saved an optimistic 10% (or 4.4 cents) of their income every hour, 16 hours a day, with no weekends, it would take 3 and a half months to raise the same amount .

ive paid my premium to support brandon and companies like his to make sure UO and their factories dont get that support. and now theyre getting it anyhow, is what irks me. what does brandon say about that?


hahaha, good point. don't know what brandon has to say about it, but money talks... right? tongueface
Dec 30, 2009 @ 22:58
so hows the quality on the weird guy selvedge, is it
Dec 30, 2009 @ 22:58
Damn, I actually bought the UO ones because of the differential in pricing for the deep indigos. Definitely going to be my only pair from them, its crazy how low factory workers get paid in china


i will do no more preaching but to say that i think brands like n&f and american apparel are important despite their flaws, which ought to be transparent. at least we know dov charney is a sleeze. but he also created a worldwide outlet for ethically produced goods packaged with cultural relevance. i like n&f as it stood, and will hopefully stand sometime in the future; a neat, durable product for a fair price. i dont see unbranded as entirely fair.

anyhow, im done. if you like, theres a trailer for a documentary about lifeng denim factory here:
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=P0yfNOkBClI
Dec 31, 2009 @ 00:48
Some fit/fade pics.
Weird Guy Deep Indigo
3 weeks in. 29 x 34.


Dec 31, 2009 @ 13:12
pretty nice fit... definately looks like you could've sized down 1 more though.
Dec 31, 2009 @ 14:01
^Looks good. Whats your true waist?

“There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; and those that come in by the window.”

Dec 31, 2009 @ 18:29
Bet ya'll don't have Brandon's fucking business card :smugface:

NF for sale: 190z Elephant Skins, and Broken Twills Weird Guy Tagged 33.

Jan 01, 2010 @ 23:28
Bet ya'll don't have Brandon's fucking business card :smugface:


u sound like a 10yr old, who gives a shit about a card
Jan 02, 2010 @ 00:00
Anybody get the new 24 ounce denim? Or did they come out for that matter? Brandon told me they were 280 retail and supposed to last a lifetime, hope they'll fade nicely
Jan 02, 2010 @ 03:34
Damn, I actually bought the UO ones because of the differential in pricing for the deep indigos. Definitely going to be my only pair from them, its crazy how low factory workers get paid in china


Okk, heres something you guys might not get.

the average salary in china factories compared to americans, is very very veyr very low. AFter a day's amount of work, one might not be able to even buy a big mac in USA. But what you guys gotta keep in mind, is that 1) the standard of living is very very low in China. What you spend on a nice dinner, might be enough to feed a family for a month. 2) If it weren't for all the factories moving to China, not only will there be more starving kids, but also, the average salary will go down, since theres a surplus of workers.

I'm NOT supporting the low salaries and sweatshops. I think its horrible, and i really do wish that all those poor kids could have better wages or working conditions. But it jsut annoys me when i see people constantly comparing china's wages with american ones, instead of taking into consideration, china's cost of living and other factors!
Jan 02, 2010 @ 05:05
Anybody get the new 24 ounce denim? Or did they come out for that matter? Brandon told me they were 280 retail and supposed to last a lifetime, hope they'll fade nicely


Wow, a lifetime, I would definitely drop retail
Jan 02, 2010 @ 09:30
Okk, heres something you guys might not get.

the average salary in china factories compared to americans, is very very veyr very low. AFter a day's amount of work, one might not be able to even buy a big mac in USA. But what you guys gotta keep in mind, is that 1) the standard of living is very very low in China. What you spend on a nice dinner, might be enough to feed a family for a month. 2) If it weren't for all the factories moving to China, not only will there be more starving kids, but also, the average salary will go down, since theres a surplus of workers.

I'm NOT supporting the low salaries and sweatshops. I think its horrible, and i really do wish that all those poor kids could have better wages or working conditions. But it jsut annoys me when i see people constantly comparing china's wages with american ones, instead of taking into consideration, china's cost of living and other factors!


thats all well and good. but 1) china's lower standard of living is as much of the problem as american support of it. 2) china has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world because people who find themselves in these places are often without option, which they should also have. they should be able to keep their jobs and use their ample skill and training to continue manufacturing if they like. but they should have the choice, and they should be paid and treated well for their hard work.
Jan 02, 2010 @ 11:06
I really can't believe a hypebeaster would consciously try to reason their way into supporting sweatshop practices

NF for sale: 190z Elephant Skins, and Broken Twills Weird Guy Tagged 33.

Jan 02, 2010 @ 16:45
Okk, heres something you guys might not get.

the average salary in china factories compared to americans, is very very veyr very low. AFter a day's amount of work, one might not be able to even buy a big mac in USA. But what you guys gotta keep in mind, is that 1) the standard of living is very very low in China. What you spend on a nice dinner, might be enough to feed a family for a month. 2) If it weren't for all the factories moving to China, not only will there be more starving kids, but also, the average salary will go down, since theres a surplus of workers.

I'm NOT supporting the low salaries and sweatshops. I think its horrible, and i really do wish that all those poor kids could have better wages or working conditions. But it jsut annoys me when i see people constantly comparing china's wages with american ones, instead of taking into consideration, china's cost of living and other factors!


Not to mention China purposely devalues their currency by over 40%. Aside from the impact of China's wages, maybe you should talk about the impact of Wal-Mart importing nearly half their inventory from China's wholesalers and the impact on the US economy blushing

In the grand scheme of things, Wal-Mart is much more evil.
Jan 02, 2010 @ 17:49
all the more to buy supreme/undefeated/huf/w+h/RC? made in canadaaaaaaa. lol j/p
Jan 02, 2010 @ 18:37
Tomorrow I am at 3 months with my Weird Guys, I am thinking of giving it a wash.. they startin' to stankk or should I just soak em?
Jan 02, 2010 @ 22:09
^What about dry clean

“There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; and those that come in by the window.”

Jan 02, 2010 @ 22:27
depends on what you want...
soaking generally prevents indigo loss
washing enhances indido loss for those epic fadez..
it really depends on the heat of the water though... hot=more indigo loss, cold=less indigo loss
But since they stink... i'd suggest a soak to completely get rid of the smell ( and stains tongueface )
Jan 02, 2010 @ 22:38
Aight cool! Soak it is, I'mma soak 'em tomorrow. I'm guessing soaking them would make it more difficult for fades? smh
Jan 02, 2010 @ 23:11
how do these strech im trying to avoid the awkwardness of not being able to button my jeans so dont tell me size down 8 like some apc's
Jan 02, 2010 @ 23:45
Size down one if you got big thigs/calfs.. 2 if you dont
Jan 03, 2010 @ 01:37
where to cop weird guys on the cheap?
smokeyface
Jan 03, 2010 @ 03:17
where to cop weird guys on the cheap?
smokeyface


cheapest are when they're onsale at tobi or other sites that carry em, and are having a sale.
Jan 03, 2010 @ 03:38
genius, just hang them outside in the sunlight for awhile, or stuff them in your freezer. don't gotta soak breh.

going 4 months strong now.
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