doods, please. there are those of us who come here to enjoy ourselves and relax. just please take that into account before you start arguing over a "right" way to do it. its a communal space. please dont pee in the pool.
It was a statement of fact ("you're being ironic") and a sausage joke followed by a piece of advice ("buy jeans that fit better"). That's all, nothing more, nothing less. I cannot help that he took offense to the remark; and I wasn't implying there's an incorrect way to wear and buy jeans. I was saying that it's funny to me that he admitted his jeans were too tight but was seemingly miffed at the flaws in the construction, being that in my personal experience the tighter you go, the more natural flaws you're going to bring out.
What I AM saying is that the "size down for WG" advice is erroneous and mainly does people a disservice.
Anyone who owns multiple pairs of NF will tell you that the sizing varies from fabric to fabric AND from run to run. The weird guy Deeps won't fit the same as the same size broken twills and sizing has varied across every pair I've tried on. Two pairs of the same fabric released as part of separate runs also may not fit the same. I own 8 pairs of NF at this point 4 WG and 4 Slim G and none of the same models fit the same in an exact size comparison. I've had to size down, size up, and go TTS to find fits I liked across all 8 of those pairs of jeans. So, if we can agree that the sizes are going to fluctuate virtually pair to pair, what's the point of hard and fast advice like "size down on the WG?" Toss in the variation between preference in fits and lifestyles, and I think sizing advice is maybe the most fruitless conversation one could have about a pair of jeans.
The best advice you can get is, if you don't want your jeans to suck, try them on. Make sure they fit how you like them to. If you buy jeans that aren't tight, they might stretch a little, but since your not stressing them, they won't stretch as much as if you had sized down. If you size down and your jeans are tight they will stretch more because they're tight and need to stretch more to accommodate the stress you've put on them. Listening to other people's experiences and taking anecdotal "proof" as hard evidence of what you must do to get the "desired fit" when you're buying a $100+ pair of jeans is fucking crazy in my opinion.
Here's the kicker, the jeans that "stretched two sizes" would have only stretched one size if he had gone one size up and bought a fit that wasn't so tight. I can size down and cram my balls into my jeans and walk around in pain and stretch em 2 sizes. Or I can not size down and see minimal stretch because I bought a pair that fits reasonably well. You can also still get a snug fit that accounts for stretch without following the hard rule of sizing down due to the aforementioned fluctuations in size.
Only the first paragraph of this was directed towards Griefy.