The Official Eternal Thread

October 02, 2009 @ 20:48:22 PM
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Before Soak

does the sizing seem right?
I was going for a straight slim but little less slimmer then what tech had.

went true to size for the most part, there was a slight gap between my waist

quick question
hem first then soak? I already know for sure i should hem. So I might as well wait. Or should I soak to see how much more i need to take off?


very stoked on the fact that my hem is measured 8" rather than 8.5 before soak=D
October 02, 2009 @ 21:28:29 PM
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Firstly, great fit. I tried these on today, and was this (small gap) between copping. They're a bit tight in the waist, so I would give them a 10-15 minute cold soak then hang dry. Hemming before or after doesn't really make a difference, but be careful about where you get them hemmed.
October 02, 2009 @ 21:33:40 PM
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Thankyou^^ I probably will wear my apcs for a while more until i get the time to send these to selfedge and get them back. I mean i already went out 267 I might as well put the extra effort in to keep the chainstiched hem.

hey tech last of the questions if you do end up reading this
what's your inseam after soaking?
October 02, 2009 @ 23:29:55 PM
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great fit
whats your height?
October 02, 2009 @ 23:31:28 PM
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im around 5' 9-10"
October 03, 2009 @ 00:18:11 AM
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hey tech last of the questions if you do end up reading this
what's your inseam after soaking?


I think somewhere around 36 or 37, I can't really measure because the denim is all scrunched up as of now, but I have a feeling thats were they are.

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October 03, 2009 @ 00:32:09 AM
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hem about two or three inches
u want some stacks right?
October 06, 2009 @ 19:08:37 PM
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gahhh i just soaked these today
the inseam shrunk a bit
the leg opening is 8" which is fine
but these feel regular...
i sized down 1the waist fits slightly tight but wasnt terrible to put on.

i have a feeling there is still more shrinkage left in these because the thighs seem to be bulging out a bit.

what should i do to squeeze out the rest?
i was thinking hot wash inside out
and medium dry?
October 06, 2009 @ 20:40:27 PM
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Firstly, great fit. I tried these on today, and was this (small gap) between copping. They're a bit tight in the waist, so I would give them a 10-15 minute cold soak then hang dry. Hemming before or after doesn't really make a difference, but be careful about where you get them hemmed.


did you actually listen to this guy?

hot soak/wash the shit out of them to eliminate as much hip flare as you can.. the waist is the easiest part to stretch back out

machine dry em if you want.. it'll soften the denim alot though
October 06, 2009 @ 20:50:08 PM
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i didnt listen but i know for sure i have more shrinkage left.
im gonna hot wash no spin tommorow because i get hotter water out of my washer rather than my tub.
if i run them through the dryer will it soften up to the point where they wont be stiff enough to set in stacks an creaeses? iv
October 06, 2009 @ 21:31:06 PM
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I know what I'm talking about better than everybody who posts here regularly. What I meant was to give them a cold soak initially, and then to work out all the shrinkage after some wear and stretch. Having shrinkage left in your jeans is really not that big a deal, just as long as you have the length gone, and a good bit of it out. If you want to put them in the wash and then dryer, you will have all the shrinkage out, but you will also have all the starch out. You'll pretty much have a one/wash jean, and if you've seen eternal in one wash, they're really not too stiff at all, especially after a short bit of wear. If you want to keep them stiff until creases set in, just give them an initial arbitrary hot soak. As I said, having a little bit of shrinkage left in the jean will not hurt you.
October 06, 2009 @ 21:38:53 PM
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im gonna do a hot wash no spin
and hang dry

that should get all my shrinkage out of the way

the extra shrinkage is a problem for me because im not happy about the thighs at the moment.
October 06, 2009 @ 22:00:38 PM
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So, if you want the lower leg to remain stiff while getting all the shrinkage out of the thigh, why not just give the thigh region a boiling hot soak. If you want your jeans to remain stiff, that's what I would go for. But, if that's not of as much importance to you, do what you originally intended to do, wash then machine dry.
October 06, 2009 @ 22:04:33 PM
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just gonna hot wash the whole thing no spin though
ill still have starch though
everything else can shrink more not really a problem
but im not gonna hot dry
October 07, 2009 @ 00:19:09 AM
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October 07, 2009 @ 10:39:30 AM
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2nd hot soak did it around 45minutes
measurements seem pretty good while they are wet
8.5 kneee
10.25ish thigh
rise is a little less than 11
hem is slightly short of 8

should shrink a bit more when theyre done drying
hopefully get a good fit this time
pics up tonight probably
October 07, 2009 @ 16:33:39 PM
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the fit on these could have been better sadly
Maybe these will hit the market place

but it is a change from apcs alot more open, but they dont work with my fits
but as jeans at the waist they feeeel comfy.

love/hate thing i guess i should have size down more
October 07, 2009 @ 18:19:49 PM
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Eternal 811 are not really modern fitting at all. They're a vintage (66' slimmed down repro) fit, and most people looking for a modern, slimmish fit from them will be disappointed. Sizing down 1 more would really not have helped very much. If you want a more modern fit, get something from flathead, the denim is similar in quite a few of its qualities, while the fit is better (in my opinion). But, eternal does have the best vertical construction around, and the general construction and durability are also superior.
October 07, 2009 @ 18:35:21 PM
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Eternal 811 are not really modern fitting at all. They're a vintage (66' slimmed down repro) fit, and most people looking for a modern, slimmish fit from them will be disappointed. Sizing down 1 more would really not have helped very much. If you want a more modern fit, get something from flathead, the denim is similar in quite a few of its qualities, while the fit is better (in my opinion). But, eternal does have the best vertical construction around, and the general construction and durability are also superior.

overall i was def. impressed in the quality. I knew that eternals were based off that cut, they def at a different feel at the waist. But i did spend time on researching the sizing and after tech posted his fit i was convinced.

I actually do semi like the fit except i think theyre stiff at the top and the rise keeps comin up like i got a boner or something so im seeing how these are when they settle down a bit.
October 07, 2009 @ 18:37:03 PM
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I see you heat. smokeyface
October 07, 2009 @ 19:39:29 PM
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Yup, its me. blushing
October 07, 2009 @ 19:41:47 PM
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October 08, 2009 @ 09:49:11 AM
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im almost definitely copping a pair of 811s....but my one question is do i have to worry about knee bulge in these?
October 08, 2009 @ 14:19:57 PM
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all jeans get knee bulge. its natural, just like getting leg twists- something you may not like but shits still going to happen
October 08, 2009 @ 14:29:51 PM
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knee buldges eventually settle down and look fine as the denim loosens up a bit more
October 08, 2009 @ 18:09:28 PM
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The tighter the fit, the looser the weave, the more knee bulge you'll get.

That said, relaxed fits tend not to have as much knee bulge, same with tighter weaves.
October 09, 2009 @ 10:09:41 AM
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lol im aware knee bulge is inevitable but i know some jeans tend to stretch more than others. either way i think eternals are next up for me
October 09, 2009 @ 17:05:01 PM
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I have barely if not none at all a knee bulge, its very minimal for me

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October 09, 2009 @ 17:43:12 PM
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Goddamn so close to having enough for these smh. Idk if I can resist spending it on like outwear and what not blinkyeyes
October 15, 2009 @ 23:19:02 PM
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PBJ or this.

Do the 811s still suffer the weird hipflare some ppl seemed to get?
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