catalystcollective.us // @theconsciousone
catalystcollective.us // @theconsciousone
That's what I'm talking about with the crotch ma dude. It bulges and hugs my nuts SO bad. And looks awkward with my fits. I'm hitting 1 year on these and then going out and copping a new pair of jeans right away. Probably some Skull 5010xx's or just go simple and cop some APC NS. Last pair of mid/high rise denim I ever cop.

a little different... But if anyone knows where i can get these in a 30-31 let me know!
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Just soaked my pair, and the water was literally piss yellow with all the grime.
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I'm going to post an update soon. I think these are gonna start losing major indigo very very soon, everything is starting to break through. These are very stubborn to fade.
The raw models should shrink up to the same measurements as the one wash versions with the same tagged size. Eternals don't stretch too much but you'd be able to get a good 1"-1.5" inches of stretch at the least. The rise shouldn't stretch much at all. Like you mentioned notable stretch would mostly occur in the waist/upper thigh/seat areas.
I'd only size down if you were ready for some pain and wanted a slimmer fit. The waist is cut pretty tight in comparison to the rest of the top block.
If you're looking for a comfortable waist just get TTS. Their stretch is still less than other denim brands.
Unsanforized denim continually shrinks when washed/soaked too. In the end it's always better to get the bigger size.