you're going to just need to try them on. some of them measure 2"s bigger in the waist raw and some measure tagged size while raw. depends how recently the ones you buy were made. mine were from the most current batch and they measured tagged size raw. theyre pretty tight on my waist as i was expecting them to measure 2"s bigger like all the previous batches had.
catalystcollective.us // @theconsciousone
you look like a fucking idiot.
right now im debating between 0500s and 5000s for sams. I've seen so many terrible 710 fits lately that it turned me off from them (save 12ape and someone else)
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catalystcollective.us // @theconsciousone
i think you should have only sized up 1 and then soaked to get 12ape's fit...
but boil and see what happens
lmao that fit is so awkward.. he needs to sag