dunks, if your waist is a 30 and you wanna size down 3 for new cures, you would need a tagged size 25 (which has a 27 waist). if you want new standards, you would again get a 25 (27 waist).
when people say size down, it literally means sizing down from your actual waist size. so if your waist is 30, and someone tells you to size down two, find the tagged size that corresponds to a 28 waist.
a tagged size by itself is useless unless the specific brand and style of denim is known. each company has a different way of "tagging" sizes.
now, when people talk about "size XX" of whatever denim, they are ALWAYS talking about tagged sizes unless they are dumbasses.
always check sizing charts for the denim that youre gonna buy to make sure you didnt fuck up. look here:http://www.contextclothing.com/item.php?id=29
a 26 would have a 28 waist (+2), while a 33 would have a 34 waist (+1). its not consistent at all, so you have to make sure.
you guys need to stop mixing up all this shit. fuck.